Who needs shape tool when we have text tool

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      It does! And it’s so easy to use.

      • Draw a circle with the ellipse selection tool
      • From the edit menu choose “stroke selection” and follow the dialogs
      • Remove your selection

      It’s so obvious I can’t imagine why anyone would be confused.

      • cally [he/they]@pawb.social
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        Draw a circle with the ellipse selection tool

        So it does have what is effectively a circle shape tool. I don’t know why people are saying it doesn’t.

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          I was being sarcastic because really it doesn’t have a tool with explicit features, just a workaround using a couple features together.

          For a new user it’s very difficult to do a pretty basic task.

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          That’s not actual shape tool.

          Shape created by shape tools should be always editable. Using ellipse selection tool means the circle is rasterized.

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            Paths in Gimp are persistent, non-rasterized, and editable. Just make a circle with the ellipse tool and then convert it to a path.

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              That’s still not as intuitive as actual shape tools on any other software.

              If average casual user get confused to it, then it’s a bad UX.

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                Trying to cater to some mythical “average casual user” and avoiding some vague concept of “bad UX” at all cost is how you get unusable garbage like Gnome and Teams.

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                  I’m not saying it has to be GNOME or Teams. Gnome is too limiting (I also don’t like it), while Teams is… whatever.

                  It’s just have to be great for advance user, while easy to user for first-time user.

                  Let me give you some example of bad UX, that fixed in other software:

                  • Gradient effect is not editable once you deselect it, you have to recreate it from scratch (you can edit it on Photoshop or Affinity Photo)
                  • There’s should be option to adjust font size with resizing text box instead of trying to input every single number (it’s possible on every major software)
                  • Drawing outside the layer does not retain its information (CSP retains the information)
                  • NDE effects cannot be drag and drop between layer for faster editing
                  • Rotating text cannot be edited (just saw the dev talk about it on Discord)

                  Almost all of the UX problems here are recognized by the dev, even actively discussed on how to fix them!

                  You can make advance application while still catering towards newbies! For example: Clip Studio Paint. They have multiple layout and UI for different use case and audience.

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                  mythical “average casual user”

                  Mythical? You realize people like this exist, right? This is why programs like this exist. Take Audacity for example, it was made with non-professional audio people in mind. Just people who have odds and ends to do with audio. It’s simple enough that someone with no prior knowledge can start poking around and figuring things out, and it’s advanced enough that it can get the job done for most people who need to work with audio files.

                  I’m not saying that GIMP needs to prioritize the first time user experience. If making the UI/UX more approachable for new users would necessarily make it worse for established users, then it may be a decent tradeoff. Denying the existence of people who just need to edit an image here and there is absurd though.

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        1. Because it’s a photo editing tool, not a painter. Different priorities.
        2. Because a shape tool requires non-destructive vector layers.
        3. …and implementing that would require a fundamental overhaul of the current vector backend from 2006.

        The development of 3.0 was focused on GEGL and non-destructive editing. Working on the shape tool in parallel would’ve taken away resources and pushed back the release date even further.

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        Ellipse selection -> fill with black -> new layer -> shrink selection by 1 pixel -> fill with white? It’s been a while since I’ve really used gimp.

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          There’s a “border” command that selects the border around the current selection. Slightly more convenient

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          yeah, pretty much this, just don’t forget to hold shift while using the ellipse selection to force it to create a circle

          edit: the steps in order are: Ellipse selection (hold shift for circle) -> fill with black -> shrink selection by X pixels -> new layer -> fill with white

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    Please make a 45 minute tutorial video to share that knowledge 🙏

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    Honestly it’s not that hard to make a circle, you just use the selection tool and paint can, add a border if you want a hollow circle.

    That being said it’s absolutely absurd that the shape tool isn’t a thing and triangles are a bitch

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    You can also use the brush tool and just draw a circle that’s completely filled in at whatever size you want and then remove the inner portion that you don’t want by switching to the erase tool and then shrinking the size of the circle brush to what you don’t need and clicking directly in the center of the circle.

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        You know?

        You made me think about this for a minute and I think I figured it out.

        Use the circle pin to draw the circle.

        Then use the select tool to select the circle that you drew.

        Then use the grow/shrink tool to shrink the selection by however many pixels thick you want the circle to be.

        Then use the erase tool to erase all the parts of the circle that you don’t want.

        Easy peasy.

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      1. Type letter ‘c’ using the text tool, as you’ve already done
      2. Create a new layer from text
      3. Duplicate layer
      4. Transform - flip horizontally
      5. Merge two layers

      It’s a basic GIMP knowledge, really. Don’t forget to add an alpha channel to your layer after step 2, otherwise it won’t work.

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        I know you’re probably joking but Gimp has neither shape tools nor Vector Layers.

        The secret ingredients are setting up a grid and resizing to work at a high resolution, turning on snap to grid, using the brush tool by clicking then holding shift then clicking again to create a line, fill tools, and using a very large brush followed by the same brush at the same point but smaller, and lastly the copy/paste, mirror, and rotate tools to create symmetrical or circular patterns.

        Tbh its pretty time consuming but very simple to do.