Famed Yale business guru Jeffrey Sonnenfeld said America’s top tycoons are freaked out by Trump’s ‘Maoist’ MAGA movement — despite some executives’ ‘Dear Leader’ praise in public
So you’re going to be rude instead of making a point?
I am making the point. The point is that you can’t just take a handful of things Mao did, that tons of other people have also done, and say that anyone who does those things is a “Maoist.” Whether it’s “making a plan to promote industrialization with government involvement” or “writing words.”
Virtually every country that went through a period of industrialization would be “Maoist” by this standard.
I didn’t define anything dipshit
Yeah and that’s part of the problem. Because you have no understanding of what the label you’re using actually means.
I asked how they were different not the same
The onus is on you to demonstrate how they’re similar. It’s like if someone said, “In what way is a raven different from a writing desk?” They’re so different that it’s virtually impossible to convince of any line of thought that would see them as similar.
So when you said, “I’m not trying to be mean but how in practice is this substantially different than Maoism?” you weren’t implying that Trump is a Maoist?
Yeah and we’ve gotten down to the fact the only functional difference is stretching towards socialism. So in practice they aren’t functionally different a farmer losing their farm is generally unconcerned about what form of government did it in the long run.
Lol no we haven’t. We have not even begun a serious discussion about it.
To establish that they are at all similar, you need to establish the similarities between Trump’s actions and Maoism, beyond, “They both made plans to industrialize” which is true of countless countries around the world that had nothing to do with Maoism. As I said, by your standard, Emperor Meiji would be a Maoist, which is absurd.
Since you have not, and refuse to do this, then obviously you have no real basis for making that claim. They are so different that it’s utterly bizarre that anyone would ever compare the two.
On the one hand, someone who came to power via a revolution in a poor and undeveloped country with the support of landless agricultural workers who then redistributed land from the landlords to the peasants and then moved to develop the economy. On the other hand, a billionaire landlord who came to power in a rich developed country through a bourgeois election with the support of the wealthy who has, rather than giving poor agricultural workers their own farms, has been deporting them en masse to foreign prisons.
They are opposites in virtually every respect and the only similarities you’ve found are entirely superficial or are true of virtually everyone. This comparison is baseless, ignorant nonsense, and anyone making it has zero understanding of anything.
We have, you injected yourself into a conversation you clearly don’t understand nor does it seem that you care to.
No, all I have to ask is how in practice they are functioning differently. We do not in fact need to approach this is the dumbest most time consuming way.
I haven’t refused anything, I will say if you had any social skills and didn’t immediately get preachy and rude you’d probably get a lot farther off discussion was your actual intent which clearly it is not.
Get out your feelings, keep up with the conversation and moreover drop the preachy rude bullshit.
So you’re going to be rude instead of making a point?
I didn’t define anything dipshit the other person did and I responded.
I asked how they were different not the same, you should read the comment chain rather then be rude for no fucking reason.
I am making the point. The point is that you can’t just take a handful of things Mao did, that tons of other people have also done, and say that anyone who does those things is a “Maoist.” Whether it’s “making a plan to promote industrialization with government involvement” or “writing words.”
Virtually every country that went through a period of industrialization would be “Maoist” by this standard.
Yeah and that’s part of the problem. Because you have no understanding of what the label you’re using actually means.
The onus is on you to demonstrate how they’re similar. It’s like if someone said, “In what way is a raven different from a writing desk?” They’re so different that it’s virtually impossible to convince of any line of thought that would see them as similar.
Yeah that’s why I didn’t do that, keep up.
Ok so we’re agreed then that Trump isn’t a Maoist.
That was never something I said or implied you boisterous dolt, read the comment chain then get rude if that’s your prerogative.
So when you said, “I’m not trying to be mean but how in practice is this substantially different than Maoism?” you weren’t implying that Trump is a Maoist?
Yeah and we’ve gotten down to the fact the only functional difference is stretching towards socialism. So in practice they aren’t functionally different a farmer losing their farm is generally unconcerned about what form of government did it in the long run.
Lol no we haven’t. We have not even begun a serious discussion about it.
To establish that they are at all similar, you need to establish the similarities between Trump’s actions and Maoism, beyond, “They both made plans to industrialize” which is true of countless countries around the world that had nothing to do with Maoism. As I said, by your standard, Emperor Meiji would be a Maoist, which is absurd.
Since you have not, and refuse to do this, then obviously you have no real basis for making that claim. They are so different that it’s utterly bizarre that anyone would ever compare the two.
On the one hand, someone who came to power via a revolution in a poor and undeveloped country with the support of landless agricultural workers who then redistributed land from the landlords to the peasants and then moved to develop the economy. On the other hand, a billionaire landlord who came to power in a rich developed country through a bourgeois election with the support of the wealthy who has, rather than giving poor agricultural workers their own farms, has been deporting them en masse to foreign prisons.
They are opposites in virtually every respect and the only similarities you’ve found are entirely superficial or are true of virtually everyone. This comparison is baseless, ignorant nonsense, and anyone making it has zero understanding of anything.
We have, you injected yourself into a conversation you clearly don’t understand nor does it seem that you care to.
No, all I have to ask is how in practice they are functioning differently. We do not in fact need to approach this is the dumbest most time consuming way.
I haven’t refused anything, I will say if you had any social skills and didn’t immediately get preachy and rude you’d probably get a lot farther off discussion was your actual intent which clearly it is not.
Get out your feelings, keep up with the conversation and moreover drop the preachy rude bullshit.