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  • cmoney@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Every accusation is a confession. Also it’s funny to think everyone is a latent homosexual all they need is to come in contact with another homosexual to activate their homosexuality.

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      5 months ago

      Considering all the other things they consider temptations, if it’s half as fun as everything else they hate, I might have to try this being gay thing!

    • hglman@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      It’s sort of true. If you have been raised to suppress your wants of people of the same sex, being confronted with things that you find arousing and forbidden makes that suppression hard. That is, you are now aware that you are gay.

    • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.caOP
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      5 months ago

      Many of them think being gay is a choice because they are bisexual. So for them it’s a choice on whether or not to act on it. So they project that it’s a choice for everyone.

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      4 months ago

      Weird I’ve heard about this from so many countries, from Japan to almost every communist country.

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        The US did it too for a while. The justification seems to have been something to do with left-handed versus right-handed brain processing or something like that. They were worried that they were going to get a generation of artists and poets and that no one would actually do anything industrial.

        Also there’s something in the Bible about people having left hands being agents of the devil, although it seems to only be in certain editions.

        The idea that left-handed people are more artistic than right-handed people has been debunked for years now and yet it’s still something people seem to think is true.

      • iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com
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        Happened to my wife’s mother in the Netherlands in the 1950s. She did everything left handed but wrote right handed.

        By the 1970s this was over here, so I guess the southpaws were able to convert enough people to their godless ways. 😉

  • Mr_Blott@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    And by christians, you mean American Christians. The rest of the world’s god-botherers don’t do this. Yous are fucking weird bunch, that’s why yous got turfed out of Europe in the 15th century 😂😂

    • Agrivar@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      So… the Catholic Church, well known for traveling the world to shove Jesus down everyone’s throats, is an American institution now? Got it.

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      Yeah, there’s a lot of history to this, but it’s a part of why there’s so many unusual or distinctive off-shoots of Christianity that come from the US: Jehovah’s Witnesses, LDS, Seventh Day Adventists, Evangelicalism, etc…

      It’s not just the Puritans, in fact, it’s mostly not, though they’ve given us plenty of other cultural baggage.

      Because we weren’t our own nation, we didn’t have our own bishop in the church of English, so for ministers to get ordained they had to go to England to be trained and then come back.

      This gave rise to a conflict between the New Lights and Old Lights. The New Lights were basically proto-evangelicals and they determined that the proof of qualification to be a minister wasn’t a degree, education, or some church approval from overseas, but the ability to gather a church.

      This meant that charisma became the defining trait for a successful minister. They’re not educated and they’re terribly persuasive. This is why evangelicals have such terrible theology. There’s all these ideas that are mainstream evangelical ideas that never existed before this period.

      The rapture was created during this period. That’s right, for nearly 1800 years Christians wouldn’t even know what you meant if you said “the rapture” and now evangelicals wander around telling everyone to be prepared.

  • TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    If you can be converted to being gay, then you were always gay. It’s like if you have to pray the gay away, you are gay my guy

  • Sagrotan@lemmy.world
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    One day, 2 Church persons tried to talk to me about Jesus-guy, I bet them in and talked about 2 hours about free choice, real science and evolution. Tried to “discuss” it like they do it, just don’t let other arguments be valid and come back to the same shit again and again. I didn’t let them go until they almost panicked. Never heard from them again. Btw they didn’t touch their tea, hmm. I really tried to convert them to self-thinking, I still hope, something stays with them.

    • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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      That doesn’t work, unfortunately. What tends to work is epistemology, where you try to get at how they know what they “know”, and the roots of their belief. It also helps if you really develop a rapport with someone, are genuinely empathetic, and aren’t asking obviously leading questions; you want to help someone begin to question their own beliefs, rather than telling them to justify their beliefs to you, if that makes sense.

      Really deconverting someone can take a long time.

      Check out Anthony Magnabosco some time; he’s got a YouTube channel dedicated to street epistemology.

  • athos77@kbin.social
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    I think it’s more that “these people” didn’t used to ‘exist’ in their world: Sexual minorities weren’t talked about and were invisible for the most part. But since Stonewall and AIDS, LGBT+ people first decided and then learned not to hide themselves. Suddenly someone who you thought of as normal has ‘become’ gay. You obviously knew them well, it’s not possible they were hiding something from you, and there’s no chance your observations were incorrect - clearly, instead of you being wrong, something happened to them, something ‘turned them gay’ - it must have been the frogs, or music, or DnD, or something, it’s just impossible you were wrong!