• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    19 hours ago

    Do you remember when we were all wanting to be careful with AI, and not just proliferate the thing beyond any control?

    It was only a few years ago, but pepperidge farm remembers

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    2 days ago

    It is funny watching people claim AGI is just around the corner so we need to be safe with LLMs

    …when LLM can’t keep track of what’s being talked about, and their main risks are: Covering the internet with slop and propaganda, and contributing to claime change. Both of which are more about how we use LLMs.

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      19 hours ago

      The difference between LLMs and human intelligence is stark. But the difference between LLMs and other forms of computer intelligence is stark too (eg LLMs can’t do fairly basic maths, whereas computers have always been super intelligences in the calculator domain). It’s reasonable to assume that someone will figure out how to make an LLM that can integrate better with the rest of the computer sooner rather than later, and we don’t really know what that’ll look like. And that requires few new capabilities.

      The reality is we don’t know how many steps between now and when we get AGI, some people before the big llm hype were insisting quality language processing was the key missing feature, now that looks a little naive, but we still don’t know exactly what’s missing. So better to plan ahead and maybe arrive early at solutions than wait until AGI has arrived and done something irreversible to start planning for it.

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      23 hours ago

      The risk of LLMs aren’t on what it might do. It is not smart enough to find ways to harm us. The risk seems from what stupid people will let it do.

      If you put bunch of nuclear buttons in front of a child/monkey/dog whatever, then it can destroy the world. That seems to be what’s LLM problem is heading towards. People are using it to do things that it can’t, and trusting it because AI has been hyped so much throughout our past.

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        21 hours ago

        LLMs are already deleting whole production databases because “stupid” people are convinced they can vibe code everything.

        Even programmers I (used to) respect are getting convinced LLM are “essential”. 😞

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          18 hours ago

          One of my former coders (good but super ADHD affected) was really into using it in the early iterations when GPT first gained attention. I think it steadily got worse as new revisions launched.

          I’m too far from it to assess its usefulness at this stage, but know enough about statistics to question most of what it spits out.

          Boilerplates work pretty much the same way and have usually been vetted by at least a couple good programmers.

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            18 hours ago

            I’ve not found them useful for that, even. I often just get “lied to” about any technical or tricky issues.

            They are just text generators. Even the dumbest stack overflow answers show more coherence. (Tho, they are certainly wrong in other ways.)

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      Right but reliance on it is a way to destroy the world in the dumbest way. I don’t mean in the robot apocalypse way but the collapse of most societies. Without reliable information, nothing can get done. If shitty llms get put into everything, there’s no government, no travel, no grid/infrastructure and logistics of every kind are gone.

      While it’s fun to think about living in a small, self-sufficient community, we are not prepared for that and certainly not at this pace.

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    To me, there is no risk. Destroying the world is the goal. Humans had a very bad run on this planet. Destroy. Erase. Rebuild.

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      Problem is, there probably isn’t any rebuilding again or at least not to the level of technology that we are currently at. The main reasoning for that is all of the easy to get to resources like metals and fossil fuels have already been used up. So if this doesn’t work out and another potentially intelligent species comes along it’s going to be even harder than we had it getting things started.

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        …I feel like you totally missed the point. Destroy all humans. Humans are now extinct. Erase their effects on the planet. And rebuild the ecosystem with species that are healthy for the planet.

        Humans make the mistake of thinking that they are the most important thing in existence, and the world would end without them. This planet has survived countless exinctions of species in the past. It’ll survive just as well without us.

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          Erase their effects on the planet. And rebuild the ecosystem with species that are healthy for the planet.

          Coal ain’t coming back. The Carboniferous isn’t going to happen again because the mycological consciousness knows how to deal with lignin already.

          Replacing the oil I know less about, but it would take millions of years to replace what we’ve burnt/processed if it was produced at historical rates.

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          The planet would survive, sure, but why should we care that it does without us? Meaning is something that we invented, without someone to assign it, an ecosystem is little more valuable than a rock.