• Imotali@lemmy.worldM
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    Mod here. Just want to openly and unequivocally state… I will remove your comment if you’re transphobic. I will refer to trans people to let me know if you are being transphobic. I will ban you if you make an egregiously off colour comment. and I will take pleasure in doing this. Fuck your transphobic bullshit, go somewhere else. Nobody wants you here.

    • Che Banana@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      Fucking A right. n

      You are amazing, brave people and deserve a place in society where you are loved . M

    • Pokethat@lemm.ee
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      2 years ago

      Bruh, just do your job/hobby. Mods acting high and mighty is a big part of what made reddit so toxic.

      • gunnm@monero.town
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        2 years ago

        The good thing about Lemmy you can move to another instance with free speech.

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          This is free speech. They get to say what they please. They are not free from the consequences of those words however. I, as a private citizen and not a governmental actor, can censor them.

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            I disagree, free speech means the right to express any opinions and ideas without censorship or restraint even if you find them offensive.

            You said you will remove any comment that is transphobic and ban if “you make an egregiously off colour comment”.

            That is not free speech, and it’s ok. Your instance, your rules.

            • Imotali@lemmy.worldM
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              They can say what they want without restraint or restriction. They are not free from the consequences of their words.

              They can say what they like. We can ban them if we don’t like it. That’s how free speech works in a consequentialist society (modern Western society is a synthesis of consequentialism and contractualism).

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                Censor and banning opinions and ideas you don’t like is anti free speech.

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                  You were allowed to say it. I’m allowed to remove it. Welcome to the world. Don’t like it? Leave.

                  But also: nobody in the world actually likes the idea of absolutist free speech. The founding fathers certainly didn’t believe in such an idea.

            • Captain_Waffles@lemmy.world
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              Free speech is about the government not being able to restrict your speech. Guess what? Lemmy isn’t the government.

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                Lemmy is a protocol so there can be instances with free speech even if you don’t like it.

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                  This makes no sense in reply to my comment. Free speech is about the government, changing Lemmy instances won’t change the fact that Lemmy is not the government. My opinion, views, etc have nothing to do with this. As far as free speech is concerned a community would be free to remove trans positive comments if they so chose.

      • Imotali@lemmy.worldM
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        This is my job: to make perfectly clear what is and isn’t allowed. In no uncertain terms I will make sure this place is as free from transphobia as possible.

  • FReddit@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I’d be more interested in protesting the fact that it’s now legal to grope women in Italy.

    The landmark decision involved a school janitor who jammed his hand into a 17 year old girl’s panties.

    Pick the hill you want to die on.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    This is a pretty awesome way to protest and show solidarity. These trans men are ballsy as fuck and I salute them.

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    I think it would have been fair to have a rule saying “no surgical modifications”… because doing things like facelift, nose-job, breast/buttox implants, cheek lifts, wrinkle removal, etc, are obviously unfair advantages (in a beauty contest) for those who have the money pay for it; and having a generic blanket rule like that would have accomplished the same thing they were trying to accomplish without being so blatantly transphobic… so a rule like what they have only proves that they are both despicable AND dumb. The entire notion of beauty pageants is outdated and stupid if you ask me.

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      Lol, you implement that and basically all beauty pageants stop existing. Which would be a good thing, mind you. But I’ve never met a pageant contestant in my life that isn’t … let’s say … heavily enhanced by medical procedures.

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    What is protest part? Not sure it is malicious compliance either because contestant was not rebirthed as woman. Not that it’s possible unless you are buddhist.

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    Ok sure. But it’s not really an effective protest as they’re fulfilling the requirement to enter the competition. Because the competition is steered by judges they will simply eliminate the trans men in the first round.

    The rule is there to make sure the judges are not sexually aroused when they see a trans woman.

    A greater means of protest would be if the non-trans competitors all quit the pageant. But their look is their only talent, so they won’t.

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    Has anyone ever seen a “woman from birth”? Like a whole-ass adult woman popping out of somebody not appreciably larger than her? Ready for a beauty pageant at zero minutes old?

    Completely independent of gender, people should know that “women” are adults and have zero overlap with “children” or especially “newborn infants”.

    Or is this a bad translation from the Italian?