• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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    3 days ago

    You don’t have to think Israel should exist. But what good does it do to pretend they don’t when they obviously do?

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      3 days ago

      I am not speaking of a “they”, but of a “what.”

      israel is a group of invasive terrorists who, for almost a century now, or more depending on inclusion of zionism, have invaded a land that was already a nation on its own and already recognized by the world.

      • ztwhixsemhwldvka@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Isn’t a group a “they” and not a “what”. Israel is a nation of people who sees themselves as Israeli. Entire generations are born there and consider that land their home. You can’t be born a terrorist.

        It’s possible in the future to build some kinda secular Haifa Republic but this war has made that an incredibly utopian prospect.

        It’s not clear what position you advocate except the continuation of war.

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          2 days ago

          so where was that logic when palestine was literally invaded by a group of europeans calling themselves zionists? or europeans claiming some sort of “british mandate”?

          revert it to palestine. it’s what it was before our grandparents generation invaded.

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      3 days ago

      Like seriously? Who puts Liberty in their username? Nations exist to oppress and enslave us. Liberty… What a fucking joke.

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        3 days ago

        You can be an anarchist if that’s what you believe is best. But belittling people who don’t think like you is stupid and childish.

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        2 days ago

        Did I give some indication that I disagree with that idea? Lol

        I find that “recognition” is just a tool that powerful nations use to oppress less powerful polities. That’s why I am arguing against it.

        There’s no contradiction between this argument and anarchism. As I said elsewhere in the thread, I don’t believe states should exist. But giving the US, China, and other imperial powers the right to decide which ones are acknowledged or dismissed is part of the problem.