I chased this for a while. One was never enough, two too many. Got gifted pillows by my wife a couple times, nothing ever worked. Finally found one, and it’s been huge. We also put a pad on top of our mattress, and don’t know if it’s the combination of that plus the pillow, but for the last few years I’ve used just this one pillow, and it’s been great. I take it with me when we go somewhere for a night.