If the Democrat Party continues the way it has, they will look exactly like the current Republican party in the next decade. Republicans will be full puritanical. Supporters of the DNC will still be supporting the lesser evil. The only solution is for intelligent voters to take the stick of fear out of their asses and go full support for better candidates in primaries or other parties. The people who continue to run our two party system will not give up their power.
If the Democrat Party continues the way it has, they will look exactly like the current Republican party in the next decade.
If they see that the majority of the voting population is voting for Republicans, it make sense that Democrats will adopt more Republican-leaning policies. They don’t care about serial non voters. They care about swing voters and their voting base.
It’s magical thinking to assume otherwise. People who don’t want either party are too lazy to organize even a protest vote write-in name.
And how has that been working out? The Democrats keep losing because they keep abandoning their voting base, while trying to pull in Republican voters. Republican voters aren’t generally going to start voting for Democrats, but there’s a giant pile of leftist waiting for a party that actually fights for them. Maybe the Democrats should try appealing to them instead.
They do. Check out Mamdani, who had record-breaking voters turn out. Remember FDR? They voted so hard for him, that Congress had to set up term-limits. It turns out that this “Leftists don’t vote meme” is bullshit. Leftists just don’t want to vote for Right-Wingers, which is why they never show up for Democrats.
If the Democrat Party continues the way it has, they will look exactly like the current Republican party in the next decade.
This is exactly the same blinkered view that was peddled in 2000, and in 2010, by useful idiots for the Republican Party. Do you not know how far the Dems have fucking come in the past 30 years, both socially and economically?
Maybe listening to people who think worsening the genocide in Gaza is Left Praxis™ because it hurts Shitlibs like AOC and Bernie aren’t a good resource for American politics?
The only thing I can think of that improved socially is federal recognition of same sex marriage, but that was actually set in motion by state level judicial rulings. I can’t think of any economic improvements.
I think you mean fighting unions, and failing to deliver on the less-than-bare-minimum that he set out to forgive on student debt. It wasn’t sabatoged, it was because he was too busy boming innocent people, backing a genocide, and writing checks to his rich friends to get things done for the voters.
Yep, this was the moment I became completely disillusioned at the Democratic Party. Joe “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden showed his true colors here.
They’re all just corporate fuckwads. The DNC’s reaction to the 2024 loss and “Project 2029” prove they would rather lose than ever run a popular candidate that doesn’t fall in line with their own agenda.
I’m sick of voting for the compromise candidate that merely slows down our descent into fascism. If we’re heading that way anyway, might as well vote for the candidate whose values closest align to our own, democrat or otherwise and be satisfied we stuck to our convictions.
If the Democrats want my vote ever again, they have a lot of work to do to earn it back, and will need to run a candidate I actually want to vote for. I genuinely hope they get there, but I’m not going to be shamed into fruitlessly giving my vote to them again if they don’t.
Totally. I want to like the Democrats, but their leadership keeps shooting themselves in the foot, and blaming the voters. I find that I tend to side with most of their voters, but their leadership is pretty openly antagonstic to their voting-base.
I gave up on the party long ago, but I am pessimistically hopeful that we’ll see them turn around someday. In the meantime, I’d rather put my efforts into other parties that actually fight for what I want.
Yep, this was the moment I became completely disillusioned at the Democratic Party. Joe “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden showed his true colors here.
… when he got the strikers nearly all of their demands through a hostile Congress???
Just one of the things they say they’ll do for popularity but their ‘big’ donors don’t support, so they compromise or fail heartlessly. Sabotage would require opposition. The two parties have been playing the extortion game far too long.
You absolute dumbass, he used the method the law said he could, then Republican judges interfered because it’s Republican policy to not allow Democrats to be perceived as serving anything positive, then Biden used 20 different new methods to forgive all kinds of subvariants of loans
Biden helped the union get their demands. Remember that unions don’t exist to strike, they exist to protect the interests of their members - and they got what they wanted and thanked Biden for it
If the Democrat Party continues the way it has, they will look exactly like the current Republican party in the next decade. Republicans will be full puritanical. Supporters of the DNC will still be supporting the lesser evil. The only solution is for intelligent voters to take the stick of fear out of their asses and go full support for better candidates in primaries or other parties. The people who continue to run our two party system will not give up their power.
If they see that the majority of the voting population is voting for Republicans, it make sense that Democrats will adopt more Republican-leaning policies. They don’t care about serial non voters. They care about swing voters and their voting base.
It’s magical thinking to assume otherwise. People who don’t want either party are too lazy to organize even a protest vote write-in name.
And how has that been working out? The Democrats keep losing because they keep abandoning their voting base, while trying to pull in Republican voters. Republican voters aren’t generally going to start voting for Democrats, but there’s a giant pile of leftist waiting for a party that actually fights for them. Maybe the Democrats should try appealing to them instead.
Do those giant piles go to the voting booths, or are they pinky promising to do so when the general election comes around, next time?
They do. Check out Mamdani, who had record-breaking voters turn out. Remember FDR? They voted so hard for him, that Congress had to set up term-limits. It turns out that this “Leftists don’t vote meme” is bullshit. Leftists just don’t want to vote for Right-Wingers, which is why they never show up for Democrats.
People don’t vote, including leftists. Not voting isn’t going to make politicians shift left, either way.
People demonstrably vote, including leftists. I also never said that not voting is going to move politicians to the left.
This is exactly the same blinkered view that was peddled in 2000, and in 2010, by useful idiots for the Republican Party. Do you not know how far the Dems have fucking come in the past 30 years, both socially and economically?
Maybe listening to people who think worsening the genocide in Gaza is Left Praxis™ because it hurts Shitlibs like AOC and Bernie aren’t a good resource for American politics?
The only thing I can think of that improved socially is federal recognition of same sex marriage, but that was actually set in motion by state level judicial rulings. I can’t think of any economic improvements.
You mean like supporting unions and forgiving student debt? Or do you not count that because republicans sabotaged it?
I think you mean fighting unions, and failing to deliver on the less-than-bare-minimum that he set out to forgive on student debt. It wasn’t sabatoged, it was because he was too busy boming innocent people, backing a genocide, and writing checks to his rich friends to get things done for the voters.
Which unions did he fight? The ones who thanked him for helping them get their demands through?
Are you ignorant or a republican troll?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_railroad_labor_dispute
The one that made the strike illegal, and forced the contract through because the members didn’t want it.
Yep, this was the moment I became completely disillusioned at the Democratic Party. Joe “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden showed his true colors here.
They’re all just corporate fuckwads. The DNC’s reaction to the 2024 loss and “Project 2029” prove they would rather lose than ever run a popular candidate that doesn’t fall in line with their own agenda.
I’m sick of voting for the compromise candidate that merely slows down our descent into fascism. If we’re heading that way anyway, might as well vote for the candidate whose values closest align to our own, democrat or otherwise and be satisfied we stuck to our convictions.
If the Democrats want my vote ever again, they have a lot of work to do to earn it back, and will need to run a candidate I actually want to vote for. I genuinely hope they get there, but I’m not going to be shamed into fruitlessly giving my vote to them again if they don’t.
Totally. I want to like the Democrats, but their leadership keeps shooting themselves in the foot, and blaming the voters. I find that I tend to side with most of their voters, but their leadership is pretty openly antagonstic to their voting-base.
I gave up on the party long ago, but I am pessimistically hopeful that we’ll see them turn around someday. In the meantime, I’d rather put my efforts into other parties that actually fight for what I want.
Rail.
… when he got the strikers nearly all of their demands through a hostile Congress???
Rail.
https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/rail-unions-hail-bidens-two-person-crew-mandate/
https://www.npr.org/2023/02/10/1155763336/freight-rail-workers-union-paid-sick-leave-bernie-sanders-csx
Maybe check what actually happened as a result
I have. Maybe you should read up on it:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/more-than-500-labor-historians-condemn-bidens-intervention-in-freight-rail-dispute/
https://jacobin.com/2022/12/railworkers-basic-control-sick-days-leave-pay-raise-strike-biden-contract
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/02/1140265413/rail-workers-biden-unions-freight-railroads-averted-strike
The only people who were happy with it were the unions leaders, who had been pushing against the wishies of the members the entire time.
Just one of the things they say they’ll do for popularity but their ‘big’ donors don’t support, so they compromise or fail heartlessly. Sabotage would require opposition. The two parties have been playing the extortion game far too long.
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You absolute dumbass, he used the method the law said he could, then Republican judges interfered because it’s Republican policy to not allow Democrats to be perceived as serving anything positive, then Biden used 20 different new methods to forgive all kinds of subvariants of loans
Biden helped the union get their demands. Remember that unions don’t exist to strike, they exist to protect the interests of their members - and they got what they wanted and thanked Biden for it
I’m pretty sure this person is a Russian troll. All they care about is shitting on Democrats
https://ontheissues.org/Bill_Clinton.htm
https://ontheissues.org/Kamala_Harris.htm
Feel free to compare and contrast.