Luigi crowd stands for murdering people you don’t personally like and getting away with it.
The CEO stood for exactly what the CEO who immediately replaced him stands for.
Nothing changed because of Luigi. He’s basically an Anarcho Capitalist who doesnt believe in democracy and instead thinks we all need to police our neighbors with deadly force. Here’s an idea, if you have to kill somebody over the state of healthcare then next time kill the people getting in the way of you having free healthcare: Republican Senators.
He may as well have killed a McDonalds Employee in protest of their corporate office. In fact, his cult almost tried to kill an actual innocent McDonalds employee, too.
You’re generalizing the Luigi crowd how you see fit. The problem is the fact that corpos pay congressmen to increase profit margins, and CEOs are beholden to boards of directors within that. The problem is that both republicans and democratic senators and representatives are so easy to corrupt through citizens united and super pacs. The problem is that healthcare in America is overpriced and shitty.
The Luigi crowd isn’t the few people focused on their anger, they’re just the loudest. The Luigi crowd, to me, is the bill burr’s that see that Nestle CEO’s that want to hoard and sell rain DO deserve to be shot, or the system needs to change. I don’t pretend to know how, but when money is considered free speech, we end up here.
What about the Epstein list, and the clear evidence of Trump being closely associated with Epstein and Ghislaine?
I don’t think we need to police our neighbors, but when the police commit crimes, what’s the answer? When the authority fucks around, how can they find out? Corpos like united healthcare deny care to people based on their bottom line, and dole out huge amounts profits to the select few at the top that have no relation whatsoever to the research. Their job is to increase profits. That’s the job. And to follow regulations set by congressmen that they tip in their favor with legal bribes.
He didn’t make a difference through the immediate effects of his action, but he republicized the wrongness of the American healthcare system to a new generation, and the fact that the other side is the one that is creating and adjusting new, more fucked up regulations. He became a symbol to a hell of a lot more than his cult you minimize him to.
Actually, quite a lot changed with Luigi, but as that’s been discussed on Lemmy all over the place, forward and backward, ad nauseam, we’ll skip it here.
What I’m finding more fascinating is you deriding ‘murdering people you don’t like’ in the first paragraph, and in the third paragraph recommend killing Republican Senators.
Those are diametrically opposed statements, though. Or are you saying murder is fine if it’s someone you don’t like?
I’d also point out that, if you’re judging from results, killing either a corrupt healthcare CEO or a corrupt politician would probably be equally practical. If you’re judging from morals, I’d say they’re also equal.
Anything is permissible if the outcome is good, but you can never operate under uncertainty or on a plan which does not have any clear results.
What Luigi did had no good outcomes and therefor it was just murder, he should bear the weight of his actions instead of run from them. Even if the person he killed actually had some positive impact, such as killing a Republican Senator, I still think the person responsible should face charges head on.
No good impact? Does publicity count for you, or nah? Do you really think killing a republican senator would have more of a positive impact? I truly wonder why.
Also, the idea that no one should act without clear results, which I can’t help but understand as some percentage level of guaranteed, is astounding. What would you EVER fight back for, as someone who couldn’t win alone and wasn’t sure others would back you up with? I’m genuinely curious, because I don’t think clear results matter that much to people with dug-in patterns that could use change that they haven’t tested and don’t trust others’ opinions of.
I really wonder, though, why you think killing a republican senator would do anything at all more than what Luigi did. Can you explain that for me? UH ceo stood for profits to those with lots of money and investments already existing(and much more fucked up shit I leave out), republican senators stand for…?
Luigi crowd stands for murdering people you don’t personally like and getting away with it.
The CEO stood for exactly what the CEO who immediately replaced him stands for.
Nothing changed because of Luigi. He’s basically an Anarcho Capitalist who doesnt believe in democracy and instead thinks we all need to police our neighbors with deadly force. Here’s an idea, if you have to kill somebody over the state of healthcare then next time kill the people getting in the way of you having free healthcare: Republican Senators.
He may as well have killed a McDonalds Employee in protest of their corporate office. In fact, his cult almost tried to kill an actual innocent McDonalds employee, too.
You mean like how those CEOs are murdering people for profit?
At least the Luigi crowd have an argument.
You’re generalizing the Luigi crowd how you see fit. The problem is the fact that corpos pay congressmen to increase profit margins, and CEOs are beholden to boards of directors within that. The problem is that both republicans and democratic senators and representatives are so easy to corrupt through citizens united and super pacs. The problem is that healthcare in America is overpriced and shitty.
The Luigi crowd isn’t the few people focused on their anger, they’re just the loudest. The Luigi crowd, to me, is the bill burr’s that see that Nestle CEO’s that want to hoard and sell rain DO deserve to be shot, or the system needs to change. I don’t pretend to know how, but when money is considered free speech, we end up here.
What about the Epstein list, and the clear evidence of Trump being closely associated with Epstein and Ghislaine?
I don’t think we need to police our neighbors, but when the police commit crimes, what’s the answer? When the authority fucks around, how can they find out? Corpos like united healthcare deny care to people based on their bottom line, and dole out huge amounts profits to the select few at the top that have no relation whatsoever to the research. Their job is to increase profits. That’s the job. And to follow regulations set by congressmen that they tip in their favor with legal bribes.
He didn’t make a difference through the immediate effects of his action, but he republicized the wrongness of the American healthcare system to a new generation, and the fact that the other side is the one that is creating and adjusting new, more fucked up regulations. He became a symbol to a hell of a lot more than his cult you minimize him to.
Actually, quite a lot changed with Luigi, but as that’s been discussed on Lemmy all over the place, forward and backward, ad nauseam, we’ll skip it here.
What I’m finding more fascinating is you deriding ‘murdering people you don’t like’ in the first paragraph, and in the third paragraph recommend killing Republican Senators.
I was never a moral absolutist. The context and results are different.
Those are diametrically opposed statements, though. Or are you saying murder is fine if it’s someone you don’t like?
I’d also point out that, if you’re judging from results, killing either a corrupt healthcare CEO or a corrupt politician would probably be equally practical. If you’re judging from morals, I’d say they’re also equal.
Anything is permissible if the outcome is good, but you can never operate under uncertainty or on a plan which does not have any clear results.
What Luigi did had no good outcomes and therefor it was just murder, he should bear the weight of his actions instead of run from them. Even if the person he killed actually had some positive impact, such as killing a Republican Senator, I still think the person responsible should face charges head on.
No good impact? Does publicity count for you, or nah? Do you really think killing a republican senator would have more of a positive impact? I truly wonder why.
Also, the idea that no one should act without clear results, which I can’t help but understand as some percentage level of guaranteed, is astounding. What would you EVER fight back for, as someone who couldn’t win alone and wasn’t sure others would back you up with? I’m genuinely curious, because I don’t think clear results matter that much to people with dug-in patterns that could use change that they haven’t tested and don’t trust others’ opinions of.
I really wonder, though, why you think killing a republican senator would do anything at all more than what Luigi did. Can you explain that for me? UH ceo stood for profits to those with lots of money and investments already existing(and much more fucked up shit I leave out), republican senators stand for…?
Lmfao this idiot thinks democrats want “free” healthcare. Good lord you are stupid