Actually, quite a lot changed with Luigi, but as that’s been discussed on Lemmy all over the place, forward and backward, ad nauseam, we’ll skip it here.
What I’m finding more fascinating is you deriding ‘murdering people you don’t like’ in the first paragraph, and in the third paragraph recommend killing Republican Senators.
Those are diametrically opposed statements, though. Or are you saying murder is fine if it’s someone you don’t like?
I’d also point out that, if you’re judging from results, killing either a corrupt healthcare CEO or a corrupt politician would probably be equally practical. If you’re judging from morals, I’d say they’re also equal.
Anything is permissible if the outcome is good, but you can never operate under uncertainty or on a plan which does not have any clear results.
What Luigi did had no good outcomes and therefor it was just murder, he should bear the weight of his actions instead of run from them. Even if the person he killed actually had some positive impact, such as killing a Republican Senator, I still think the person responsible should face charges head on.
No good impact? Does publicity count for you, or nah? Do you really think killing a republican senator would have more of a positive impact? I truly wonder why.
Also, the idea that no one should act without clear results, which I can’t help but understand as some percentage level of guaranteed, is astounding. What would you EVER fight back for, as someone who couldn’t win alone and wasn’t sure others would back you up with? I’m genuinely curious, because I don’t think clear results matter that much to people with dug-in patterns that could use change that they haven’t tested and don’t trust others’ opinions of.
I really wonder, though, why you think killing a republican senator would do anything at all more than what Luigi did. Can you explain that for me? UH ceo stood for profits to those with lots of money and investments already existing(and much more fucked up shit I leave out), republican senators stand for…?
Actually, quite a lot changed with Luigi, but as that’s been discussed on Lemmy all over the place, forward and backward, ad nauseam, we’ll skip it here.
What I’m finding more fascinating is you deriding ‘murdering people you don’t like’ in the first paragraph, and in the third paragraph recommend killing Republican Senators.
I was never a moral absolutist. The context and results are different.
Those are diametrically opposed statements, though. Or are you saying murder is fine if it’s someone you don’t like?
I’d also point out that, if you’re judging from results, killing either a corrupt healthcare CEO or a corrupt politician would probably be equally practical. If you’re judging from morals, I’d say they’re also equal.
Anything is permissible if the outcome is good, but you can never operate under uncertainty or on a plan which does not have any clear results.
What Luigi did had no good outcomes and therefor it was just murder, he should bear the weight of his actions instead of run from them. Even if the person he killed actually had some positive impact, such as killing a Republican Senator, I still think the person responsible should face charges head on.
No good impact? Does publicity count for you, or nah? Do you really think killing a republican senator would have more of a positive impact? I truly wonder why.
Also, the idea that no one should act without clear results, which I can’t help but understand as some percentage level of guaranteed, is astounding. What would you EVER fight back for, as someone who couldn’t win alone and wasn’t sure others would back you up with? I’m genuinely curious, because I don’t think clear results matter that much to people with dug-in patterns that could use change that they haven’t tested and don’t trust others’ opinions of.
I really wonder, though, why you think killing a republican senator would do anything at all more than what Luigi did. Can you explain that for me? UH ceo stood for profits to those with lots of money and investments already existing(and much more fucked up shit I leave out), republican senators stand for…?