Summary

Luigi Mangione, charged with the December 2024 murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, released his first public statement through a new website launched by his defense team.

He expressed gratitude for widespread support and acknowledged the letters he has received. The website provides case updates and a fundraiser, which has raised over $400,000.

Mangione has gained a following among those frustrated with the U.S. healthcare system. A poll found 41% of voters under 30 viewed the assassination as acceptable.

His next court date is Feb. 21.

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    9 days ago

    Being the devil’s advocate here, but he could have discarded the grey bag and grabbed a black bag with more normal stuff. This image doesn’t quite support the statement. There must be other, more powerful evidence of his innocence.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      Nah.

      That’s not how this shit works homie.

      Luigi doesn’t have to prove his innocence, the prosecutor has to prove he’s guilty beyond reasonable doubt…

      Like, you’re literally completey opposite of reality with your statement. So in a way you couldn’t be more wrong

      • rumba@lemmy.zip
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        9 days ago

        Kinda, there’s a lot more play here than want you two are talking about.

        Prosecution has:

        • an online substack manifesto from well before the event and probably internet archive to prove the date.
        • A copy of or electronic records of a fake name and ID used to book a hostel in the city.
        • Maybe video of him entering that hostel
        • A copy of an or electronic records of a fake name and ID used to book travel out of the city
        • Him on video getting off the bus from New York City.
        • A likely image of him unmasked in the area and being at the scene in like (If not exact) clothing
        • They have a manifesto “found” with him self incriminating and apologizing

        Now, He’s innocent until proven guilty, But that is not to say that he doesn’t need to disprove all this mountain of evidence against him if he is going to get off based on evidential findings. You don’t have to prove your innocence, But he’s going to have to Make a shadow of down and face of overwhelming evidence.

        But honestly between you me and a couple hundred thousand of our best friends here, I suspect there’s not a chance in hell of him getting off in that way. It’s going to be jury nullification or something spectacular, or he’s getting life.

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          9 days ago

          Most of that just shows he was in NYC at the time. The dude is a bi kid that was estranged from his family. His family was trying to get in touch with him for nearly a year, and apparently he’s been living as a drifter in that time. His family is also very wealthy and has the resources to track him down. Is it not possible that he was just trying to hide from his family? Maybe he’s a queer kid and his family rejected that, and he’s broken contact with them. Traveling via a fake ID is a minor crime, but it doesn’t prove that he’s a murderer.

          Equally plausible is that the police started putting on the media photos of every person that vaguely resembles the shooter that they could. Luigi saw his own picture on the news, and rightfully freaked the fuck out and decided to flee the city. And the online manifesto? Again, millions of people have written things that could similarly damn them.

          Remember, the killer deliberately dressed in an outfit that hundreds of men are wearing in NYC at any given time. Unless you have a continuous video of Luigi going from the hostel, to the crime scene, shooting the guy, then leaving…you don’t actually have much. Yes, I think the police can prove quite easily that Luigi was in the city, and that he was there on a fake ID. But they have precious little actually linking him directly to the crime.

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      9 days ago

      Look at the jackets. The suspect has a jacket that has a hood made of the same material and appears in this image to be a pullover. Luigi has a hood that is a different material than jacket and appears to be a zip up.

      • Verdant Banana@lemmy.world
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        9 days ago

        incorrect it is on the defense

        The burden of proof is on the prosecutor for criminal cases, and the defendant is presumed innocent. If the claimant fails to discharge the burden of proof to prove their case, the claim will be dismissed.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(law)

        even wikipedia has it wrong

        in the United States it is on the defense to pay for and to provide evidence because the prosecutor makes up anything they want along with whatever the jackboots in the case states happens with the judge going along with it in complicity and the defendant is presumed guilty throughout the entire process and even if the defendant proves their innocence the claim may not be dismissed

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          9 days ago

          Lol …

          I’ve never seen someone post a source showing they’re wrong…

          Then saying “even that source is wrong, and I’m still right”.

          Like, did you search for anything that agrees with you and then just give up but thought people would just up ote a source?

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            9 days ago

            Haven’t argued with many MAGAts have you? I had an anti-vaxxer do that numerous times because he couldn’t understand math. That precluded him from understanding that his source didn’t support his argument, but he was still posting sources saying he was wrong.

            • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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              9 days ago

              Haven’t argued with many MAGAts have you?

              Why would I?

              They want an argument, they want to be “challenged” and to “fight the good fight”.

              If rational people argue with them, it raises their group cohesion and they all circlejerk about it later.

              If rational people do the rational thing and do t engage with them they still need those arguments. So instead of circle jerking with each other, they have to argue with each other. Which fractures their group.

              Please be a rational person and stop being the punching bag of the right.

              You’ll never change their minds with facts and logic. All you’re doing is reinforcing their beliefs

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      9 days ago

      There must be other, more powerful evidence of his innocence.

      That’s not how the justice system is supposed to work.