Summary
Elon Musk’s DOGE website mistakenly published classified intelligence data, including personnel and budget details for the National Reconnaissance Office.
The breach sent Defense Department officials scrambling, as the NRO’s headcount and budget are typically classified. Intelligence aides confirmed the leak is problematic under current security standards.
Concerns have also been raised about DOGE’s inexperienced staff. The White House has not commented, and the site was later hacked.
You know, when it’s a regular citizen doing this prosecutors will have a warrant for arrest signed, even if it has to be done in the middle of the night on a weekend, and have a strike team arrest and detain those responsible within literal (really, literal) hours. Why does this not happen NOW?? (I know the answer.)
Well you see, legally, it’s complicated.
The only people who can go after him…work for Trump.
The people who can go after Trump are Congress. A Congress that is controlled by the party that Trump is the head of, and that head is attached directly to its ass, with absolutely no spine in between. A truly majestic creature, really.
The people who can stop him on the meantime are the courts. Which he packed with loyalists. Not just the supreme court but also many lower federal courts as well.
That’s thanks to the duodenum of the congress-beast, Mitch McConnel, who held up so many federal judge appointments during Obama’s last years in office because it was “too close to an election”. But then shoved in a new judge when RBG died two months before the 2020 election before she was even cold.
This is what most sane countries would call a “constitutional crisis”.
Of course. Trump was keeping classified documents in his bathroom after his first term and the American people rewarded him with a second. This is what Americans want.
At this point I’ll believe anyone in the USA is worried when we see tanks at the Capitol.
Until then it’s impossible anymore to believe this isn’t approved by the nation.
Their Shock Doctrine approach (thank you Naomi Klein) has been incredibly successful. Reading about history in my youth, I now understand why evil prevailed then as it is now. I was looking back at times of immense tyranny and thinking “why didn’t everyone just rise up against them!?” Some are fully onboard, others partially, but many are detached, struggling to survive. The rest of us do what we can, when we can, but disjointed and unorganized.
It’s a whole lot of “please will somebody DO something!”, but the modern Democrats are not an opposition party, ever. The news media is complicit as well. There are a handful of judges and attorneys who are doing their damndest, but this is no longer a country of laws (for the rich and powerful).
The country is geographically massive and your average citizen is both poor and uneducated, both politically and otherwise, by Western standards. Now that large swaths of worker’s livelihoods are being devastated they may have more time on their hands.
I won’t hold my breath for “Occupy Washington”, but when the next movement comes it will be met with intense and violent opposition. Hopefully a silver lining may be a wake up call, far too late.
I shudder to think of what comes next as it has been festering and fomenting within this country my entire lifetime. The sophisticated propaganda machine and socioeconomic warfare has kept our citizens dumb, divided, and despondent, I pray something beneficial rises from the ashes.
There is no single answer to your question. My aim was to provide a contemporaneous snapshot of what I am experiencing. As I have been observing our descent into flagrant fascism, and telling anyone who would listen, for the better part of a century. And I hate it with every fiber of my being.
I’m so fucking tired of everyone blaming the Democrats.
Trump has a 46% approval rating. ** 46% of the American people support explicitly this. **
They don’t have the right to perform a coup without the consent of the people. And you, right now, are saying you don’t consent to their rule because they haven’t taken it by force. (What force?)
Are you aware of how unpopular any impeachment typically is? If his approval rating is 46%, impeachment won’t happen.
We’re going to have to wait for things to get bad enough that we all start to actually suffer in our lives, outside of just seeing it coming by reading the news.
Seeing the train isn’t enough. We have to wait for it to hit us.
Develop heart attack gun and extensive ways to fabricate blackmail. Only use it against peaceful socialists like MLK.
Well yeah, because peaceful socialists don’t generally go around developing heart attack guns, their enemies do.
ARREST MUSK
How is this confusing?
Arrest his conspirators. Separate them. Get them to give up their international contact.
No one is as colossally stupid as these kids are. Unemployment is the least they need to worry about.
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Over half the country voted for this. Over half the country thinks he’s doing Lord’s work and is finally making America great again. He’s not getting arrested unless he does something way, way worse than this
Less than 2/3 of the country voted and less than half of them voted for Trump. Don’t give folks a mandate/credit they didn’t earn.
You’re totally right. I shouldve said that the majority of voters voted for this circus and from what I can tell still very much support it.
He still came out under 50% of the popular vote. It was close, but they didn’t win a majority of voters.
But, yes. Lots of folks cheering for things getting worse.
Did it ever occur to you to take some goddamn responsibility for what your country is inflicting on the world instead of making excuses? Especially when that excuse is “Hey, most of us just sat on our asses instead of doing the bare minimum to keep a blatant fascist out of power! Don’t blame us!”
Oh yeah that’ll surely fix everything, for all the people that didn’t want Trump in office to take responsibility for Trump getting into office.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe instead of berating us from your ivory tower (which I’m inferring from your comment is an ocean away), that maybe extending a helping hand would be more productive?
I’m not an ocean away. I’m in a country that your glorious leader has repeatedly threatened to annex. And I’m extending a helping hand by boycotting your products in the hopes that your economy collapses. I hope to do more but while the people who voted for Trump (or at least didn’t vote against him) are your friends and neighbours that you have plenty of opportunities to talk to and influence I have to do what I can from a distance.
Thanks for the “ivory tower” comment, though. It’s nice to know what you think of the people who have to suffer for your country’s actions while having no means to directly influence them (unlike yourself.)
Did it ever occur to you that framing and context matters to people? That some are more motivated to push back and resist when they see there are more people on their side than not? That the minority that elected the blatant fascist are keenly invested in promoting the idea that they have a mandate to do the things they’re doing? That the protests, lawsuits, and acts of resistance are spurred by recognizing this isn’t what the majority want? Don’t confuse speaking the truth with making excuses.
A non vote was a vote for fascism
Not all of them. Many were suppressed votes.
Thank you for this correct framing.
This is the comment to read, people.
It’s not confusing at all, many of us agree. But who enforces that? The Justice Dept, led by Trump’s other stooge Pam Bondi.
We are witnessing a coup in real-time
The world is watching too. It’s easy for me to shout towards the US “do something!” but the rich have got people so economically fucked they’d have to choose between fighting this good fight, or feeding their families.
When they can’t even feed their families, the choice will be much easier to make.
That’s honestly what it’s going to take, is a collapse like the French experienced in 1789. It’s not going to be pretty. We have tanks, machine guns, bombs, all kinds of chemical weapons (tear gas is a chemical weapon), etc.
They’re systematically dismantling everything, including farming and social programs created to help feed poor people. What do they think is going to happen when people can’t eat? There’s a reason Rome did bread and circuses. Feed the masses, entertain them somewhat and they stay relatively complacent. They’re not doing that here.
WHY DO THEY HAVE CLASSIFIED DATA?
That’s not something you just give access to because someone says they want it and they’re high up in the command structure.
Because the people who objected to them not having the clearance to view the data were put on leave.
[Musk’s] comments come after the administration placed two top security chiefs at USAID on leave after they refused to turn over classified material in restricted areas to Musk’s government-inspection teams, a current and a former U.S. official told The Associated Press on Sunday
Jesus fucking Christ.
Does anybody else feel like we’re all nearing a collective psychotic break? Like, am I crazy, or is everything suddenly fucking crazy?
It’s not you, it’s fucking crazy.
Are we all just deciding to internalize it or something? Or is this Bystander Effect on a national scale?
These systems are typically air-gapped so to be able to acquire it is a particularly bad fuck-up.
That being said information from unclassed systems can become classified when put in a single place/file for easy consumption.
Either way someone really, REALLY fucked up here.
Because trump works for Putin. It couldn’t be any clearer.
Look, War Thunder isn’t going to develop itself.
Best comment.
Just shoot him
There is a reason he suddenly started bringing his little human shield with him everywhere. Suddenly he has a good relationship with his kid right after Trump got shot. I’m sure just a coincidence.
Anyone who’s willing to shoot him won’t let that stop them
The website posting classified info, not being secure, and hiring a 19 year old who leaked classified data at a previous job. Hmm, almost seems like Elon is actively undermining the US government and inviting various groups and countries to steal our data.
Maybe he has some war thunder arguments to settle…
Worried, concerned, alarmed. Shut the fuck up if you aren’t going to take action now, and tell us what those actions are. We know they are actively destroying what they can while making bank. These words mean nothing if you say them and never take action. Maybe in a different time they would carry weight, but not today.
" problematic under current security standards."
Is there an understatement of the year award.
It’s slightly troublesome that not only were a bunch of 20ish year olds, at least one in his past was fired for posting company secrets on discord… not only are able to walk into any government agency and get classified information… but are also, notably posting them to the public. (and that’s just what we see them doing publicly… lord knows if anything is traveling through any hidden channels etc…
That’s “problematic” in the way 9/11 was a “troubling event”.
How do these people not have their fucking doors kicked in for this shit?
That’s why I’m going to my states senate office and raising hell. You should too. Monday Feb 17th. Be the change my friend