In Oklahoma, a domestic militia calling itself “Veterans on Patrol” is systematically targeting weather radars. Their leader, Michael Lewis Arthur Meyer, claims the military is controlling the weather through Doppler radar systems and that these machines are part of a divine affront — a “weather weapon” — that is “mocking God Himself.”

He’s encouraging his followers to sabotage these radars under an operation he calls “Leaning Tower.” This isn’t just fringe paranoia: it’s part of a growing anti-reality insurgency that threatens our democracy itself.

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    If only these idiots would spend even 1/10th of the time they spend studying conspiracy bullshit on studying the history of labor/human rights

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    Literally, execute these people. I’m so fucking done with this shit.

    These people cannot function in any society, in any way. They are barely sentient at this point.

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    Bet we’re gonna find out years later that this was the outcome of a successful foreign psyop to destroy US infrastructure. Kinda like how ppl were shooting at substation transformers a while back

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          In a few decades the Tea Party, MAGA, and various formerly fringe conspiracy groups will be used as case studies for how an externally boosted and manipulated movement inevitably outgrows its handlers and blazes out of control, burning the hand that feeds.

          Or maybe not. Nobody seems to have learned anything from all the other foreign-backed revolutionary groups that ended horribly, after all.

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        I don’t even think it’s Russia anymore. It feels like it’s worse… like the CIA or 5 eyes. It feels American made.

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          It’s propagated by the current corporate climate in America, where essentially both the media, and the means to transmit the message are now controlled in large part by less than 20 individuals, which makes it very easy for them to all be on the same page… Even if it’s not in the interest of Americans.

          Failure to regulate social media as broadcast media is a major contributor, along with overall failure to crack down on mergers and monopolies, as well as many other things, got us where we are

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        This has been obvious to anyone paying attention for decades now. After the fall of the Soviet Union, Russia turned their massive propaganda infrastructure outwards.

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      Maybe, but I kinda doubt it. I think this psyop is Made in AMERICA™

      ETA: Actually, I have no clue what to believe. I’m just a Texan screaming at an echo chamber of stupidity. I forgot that just because we’ve become a self-drinking glass of idiocy doesn’t mean that there could have been an external catalyst.

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        Yeah, you just got a throw your hands up and say yeah, I realize someone’s pulling the strings, it’s just that there’s so many possible “someones” that I can’t begin to imagine who it actually is. Which is also by design.

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          Also, it ultimately doesn’t matter at this point. The methods and actions required to stop the runaway train are the same regardless of who is behind the wheel.

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        Social media can influence a lot of people into doing things that go against their own interests

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    Looking forward to another Moore tornado, but with no warning sirens. When people die will the prosecutors have the nads to come after these dumbshits?

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        Oklahoman’s GOP platform has literal conspiracy theory shit in it.

        Any nutter with an “R” next to their name can win whatever position they want. It’s straight ticket Republican, no matter what.

        Everyone hated Mary Fallon, but they still voted for Kevin Stitt.

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    People are increasingly living in their own version of reality that is utterly irreconcilable with that of everyone else. In these conditions, how can we come in agreement about anything?

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    lol ok, Oklahoma. Go for it. Have fun. Throw Molotovs at the radars that literally save your lives in tornado season. You’re only going to decrease your own population. And I’m genuinely past caring at this point.

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      Our state is captured by the oil and gas industry.

      The FBI was literally invented because the bombings/murder of Osage Indians to get oil rights was being covered up by state politicians and police.

      The OERB funds a ton of science education, and they do not want you taking about climate change. They are required by the state to contribute to education, so they do this buy running fancy workshops where they give supplies to educators (like, I got thousands in dollars worth of chemistry equipment - this is a big deal when my supply closet had baking soda that would have been expired when my dad was in high school…) They teach you there that fracking doesn’t cause earthquakes, that the warming climate can be explained by Milkanovitch cycles, etc etc.

      Oklahomans aren’t given the education the need to not fall for this shit, and it’s on purpose. I would not be surprised if the oil/gas industry was involved in spreading the weather weapons conspiracy. Oklahoma has always been a playground for wealthy oilmen.

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      No. My old mentor had to move back to his home state of Oklahoma due to money reasons recently. He’s a boomer but so very anti-Trump.

      He’s been away for fifty years. He hates that Oklahoma is at the absolute bottom of education, but it’s where he grew up. Not everyone there is bad.

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      I’ve been saying for a while how lucky we are that the bad guys are so self destructive. Anti-vaxers. Destroying natural disaster warning systems, the leader is an 80 year old idiot, etc. Etc. Imagine how much worse things would be if they were competent.

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        Problem is, vulnerable populations who dont willingly participate in their stupidity still have to live among them.

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        Strictly speaking they aren’t our enemies. Mentally ill as fuck? Absolutely. But our enemy is the one that manipulates these people. Stirring up their mental illness and turning them on us. Believe me our enemy is watching comfortably as we injure ourselves. Republicans eagerly egging it on as it suits their own ends. And Democrats not really caring to do enough about it.

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          Second Amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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          To be clear, I believe domestic militias should be able to exist, but militias attacking infrastructure is what I am saying falls under domestic terrorism.

          As someone noted elsewhere, that infrastructure is helping to protecting the population from Tornadoes and other severe weather.

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    For being so bathshit crazy, they landed pretty close to the reality that oil rigs and other fossil fuel equipment are actually doing a ton of things they blame on the weather radars that make their lives better.

    Maybe we don’t factor out subtly redirecting them that way. Don’t even tell them they’re wrong, just point to what’s making the weather actually be screwy.

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      Maybe it’s those 30ish gas turbines in TN that are polluting the city to power a racist LLM

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        The oil rigs are actually cleverly disguised 5G weather controlling solar wind farms, the chem trails jets release are hidden in private jet’s fuel they burn while they broadcast mind control rays. Super yachts are holding tons of sea water they are releasing to flood coastal communities and sink florida. The insurance companies are in on it so they can keep all your money and refuse to pay claims.

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    I don’t know where the Wx radars are around here, but you don’t have to drive more than an hour to see a hell of a lot of wind turbines sharing space with crops out on the Palouse . Those turbines absorb wind and therefore they change the weather, right? I’d be very surprised if they can’t be run in reverse to generate winds - winds designed to blow farmers and their giant pickups and their farm equipment wherever the government wants them to be. Full government control. Fortunately I see that the small-town intelligentsia are starting to fight back against this kind of out-of control wind turbine government overreach.

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        It’s impossible to tell anymore. There was a time when we could have assumed it was a bit. Now we have mentally incompetent people running our government and encouraging their followers to be delusional.

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            Oh, I see. It was satire.

            Satire is a genre of the visual, literary, and performing arts, usually in the form of fiction and less frequently non-fiction, in which vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, often with the intent of exposing or shaming the perceived flaws of individuals, corporations, government, or society itself into improvement. Although satire is usually meant to be humorous, its greater purpose is often constructive social criticism, using wit to draw attention to both particular and wider issues in society. (wikipedia)

            Not to be confused with sarcasm. In writing it’s a well-known (I’d thought) technique going back thousands of years. In pre-Idiocracy times, roughly before the widespread use of cell phones and when people read written texts to become informed and for pleasure, satire was common and there were writers who were well-known for specializing in the mode. The quality of the satire was always debatable (as with the quality of any art offering) but it was normally always recognized as satire by people who were able to read it in the first place. In the case of written satire, while it might be accompanied by illustrations to emphasize one point or another, it didn’t require images or animations or the equivalent of “emojis” near the text in question in order to signify to the reader that satire was being employed. The text was self-evident as being satirical, or if not, could be understood from the context to be satire (if it was contained in a satirical book for example).

            As for what I wrote, I would have expected that the absurd concepts (government-controlled turbines designed to change the weather both by harnessing the power of winds and by creating new winds by acting as giant fans; describing these “fans” as being able to move people and extremely heavy machinery with great accuracy, again under government control) and borrowed nutter phraseology along with depictions of nutter-like outrage, would have made it apparent that satire was what was on offer. I understand that some may think if to be of poor quality, but I’m surprised that some people cannot recognize the writing as satire at all.

            Pre-Idiocracy this would rarely have been a problem, even when the writing appeared in a low-context medium such as an isolated web page or in a forum or Usenet posting. It may be that the satirical written form is now, in Idiocratic times, extinct except to specialized academics and historians and other educated elites. That would be a shame because it was a powerful (influential) communication tool and is a pleasure to write and to read.

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              People know what satire is, linking to the Wikipedia page for it just makes you look like an ass. The problem with satire is that there are plenty of equally ridiculous comments posted in complete ernest, so unless you’re a well-known satire account, comments like that are going to get downvoted into oblivion