I think in a non market economy I would still work on language models. It’s cool that a machine can hold a conversation.
Go outside. Touch grass. Talk to humans.
Talking to a hallucinating machine rots your brain:
I do those too! That’s where the ideas for new architectures, datasets, and training tweaks come from! Math is fun, and it’s fascinating that math can talk sometimes.
Edit: And I see now that we’re editing messages after people reply? Rude, no? Designing a hallucinating machine certainly doesn’t rot your brain.
Yeah, I also talk to ChatGPT sometimes, fully knowing that it’s a flawed machine and that it’s for my amusement. It’s incredible that it can do that! Just like with wireless communication, which I thought was impossible growing up. Like, holy shit, we’re living in the future, why not enjoy it a little? I don’t even think a conversation spans more than six messages tops. It’s amusing, but not that amusing if you can see right through it.
I don’t know what OP is on about but they seem to be on a crusade. They’re citing articles about getting advice from it and having it think for you, totally missing the point of having fun. Like, if you’re against AI, at least give better arguments that address why, instead of throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks.>
Looking at traffic analytics pretty much all our developer staff use chatgpt for 3+ hours a day. I’m not a big fan of using llm for my own development work. I’m proficient in they languages I write in so I don’t need it as much.
I feel like using llm can get you a quick fix but for programming a lot of the results are nonsense. It’s really really well formatted but nonsense still the same. Maybe I can’t use it right. Or I’m asking the wrong questions.
I find it hilarious how when you call it out for being BS it responds with “yes of course, you are right!..” then gives a possibly working or nonsense answer, who knows.
Nah, thats just a side effect. The primary purpose of AI is being a hype object that companies can use to inflate their stock. I like how this blogpost explained it https://pluralistic.net/2025/06/30/accounting-gaffs/
The labor market effect will be quite short lived. LLMs as a replacement to human labor will be gone before long simply because they will ruin any company, government or project that relies on them. Its a sort of natural selection.
I hope you’re right.
I have doubt, but also hope.
LLMs have a more mystical pull than other previous hypes, but look at what happened with crypto and blockchain. Every fucking government and company was saying that its the future and now nobody gives a shit about those anymore. It might be later than you and i would like, but eventually it will pass.
Or it will become foundational tech like the Internet. People said that was a fad too.
It all depends on whether or not it becomes reliable and cheap.
Idk why you are being downvoted. It is a real possiblity, but i just dont think its likely.
reliable and cheap
Because it simply wont ever be those things. LLMs become more expensive the better you try to make them, exponentially so. We will likely never see LLMs that are significantly better than what we have today. Basically all written human texts on the internet have been used for LLM training. Any further gains can only come from optimizing training algorithms and there hasnt been any real progress there for years now.
Yes, it will take a substantial change in LLM architecture to make them viable for general use. Like you said, a couple orders of magnitude improvement in training would be the biggest help. Though I’m not sure that’s even possible.
The internet was successful because it was predictable and reliable and filled a previously unserved purpose. LLMs could possibly serve a purpose creating text that doesn’t need to be correct or accurate, but it won’t replace anything that requires any level of accuracy or accountability because the design is inherently flawed due to being a prediction algorithm.
There are uses for pattern matching AI that will continue to be tools used by humans to help focus efforts in massively complex work, but they won’t ever be foundational replacements.
Oh yeah for sure there are plenty of great uses for machine learning, i would never deny that.
Get blocked Ai apologist.
How is what I said AI apologism? I clearly expressed concern that the technology isn’t reliable or cheap.
Ignore the troll
Cloud everything, saas, and offshore workers are all still things that have been negatively affecting people for years and never really went away even if the hype died down.
Cloud computing is slowly crumbling too. At least in germany more and more companies are going back to on prem, because there are just a bunch of studies showing that cloud stuff is more expensive, less flexible and often actually has more downtime. But unlike other stupid projects you cant just reverse the move to cloud in a few months, it will take years to unfuck everything.
I’m 12 and this is deep
Not entirely true. This works only for unskilled labour, meaning anyone who is not skilled in lying and cheating your way into a management positon. Or poor people.
50 years ago - you won’t believe how many paper pushers we’ll be able to get rid of once this invention called computers takes off!
Also, man these robotic arms sure help automate our factories, but if you turn your head upside down you will see it as ‘lowering the market value of human skills’.
Bwahahahahaha my aren’t you a “useful idiot”
Ai literally makes people dumber:
https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/18/is_ai_changing_our_brains/
They are a massive privacy risk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyH7zoP-JOg&t=3015s
Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:
https://newsocialist.org.uk/transmissions/ai-the-new-aesthetics-of-fascism/
AND they are a massive environmental disaster:
https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117
At least a damn computer and machines work without hallucinating or faking the product.
Gonna lose a lot of support when you respond to criticisms with name-calling.
I wasn’t confused on your terminology; I’m saying you’re being a dick. Sorry if that was unclear.
Figured. Still worth it to try to educate the ignorant masses.
The sole purpose of all tools ever created is to lower the value of human skills.
LLM’s are hyped but have some value as a tool.
Only tool I see is you. Ai apologist get blocked.
Please do me next. I hate it when people reply to me with dumb shit like that, missing the entire point, as I’ve seen with your other comments.
Stop living in a dumbass fucking filter bubble.
Blocking is for people who are abusive, not people who coherently express a point slightly different then the one you made.
And they are literally unquestionably and objectively right. Literally every single tool ever created was made to reduce the amount of labour it takes to do a task, which reduces the value of human labour. It’s called automation. Read Karl Marx if you think you’re such a leftist, he’ll explain it you.
I don’t understand the wild eyed hate for a spell checker on steroids. LLMs predict the next word like the phone keyboard you use every day.
Hate the hype, not the tool.
I’d rather be a decent and respectful ai apologist and tool than a shade-thrower. I implore you to research Ghandi friend
Bahahahahahahaha
And I rather people think for themselves and treat Ai scammers and corporate grifters like the POS that they are.
You are an obnoxious individual.
Go find some corporation to fellate.
No it’s purpose is to censor information and trap humans into bubble where the only options will be corporate locked chat or physical book. After that cut the books by lobbying for replacing public libraries with chat ( because it’s cheaper ) and leave humanity with nothing. Look how they pressure education now. They want every human to speak with robot so they can control us. It’s not about robot being good or wrong it’s about you reading what it prints and puttng it into your brain so it melts it.
