Stamets@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 1 day agoKing forgot his crownlemmy.worldimagemessage-square71fedilinkarrow-up1750arrow-down114
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minus-squareonslaught545@lemmy.ziplinkfedilinkarrow-up3·23 hours agoYou don’t have to promise anything in return for it to be fraud. If I start a Go Fund Me because I have cancer when I really don’t have cancer, the people donating aren’t promised anything in return. It’s still fraud.
minus-squareRestrictedAccount@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·2 hours agoThe cancer example is plausible, but I am not sure you would always win. In that case you are asking for help for a specific reason. They “get to feel good about helping solve your problem”. Your deception deprives them of their having done something good with their money - which is the tort. In OP’s instance, he was saying that he had a birthday and you are giving him a gift. Not the same - you can make the same argument, but it is even thinner gruel.
You don’t have to promise anything in return for it to be fraud. If I start a Go Fund Me because I have cancer when I really don’t have cancer, the people donating aren’t promised anything in return. It’s still fraud.
The cancer example is plausible, but I am not sure you would always win.
In that case you are asking for help for a specific reason. They “get to feel good about helping solve your problem”.
Your deception deprives them of their having done something good with their money - which is the tort.
In OP’s instance, he was saying that he had a birthday and you are giving him a gift.
Not the same - you can make the same argument, but it is even thinner gruel.