As a contrast … afaik some countries require every employee to take a certain amount of vacation days in one go each year or the employer can get fined (the employer has to organise that or grant the opportunity for employees). Eg if you get the minimum 4 or 5 weeks per year off you have to take at least 2 of them consecutively.
It’s basically a forced leave that boosts productivity and lowers fluctuations for the entire county (+ it’s good for people/families/culture).
But I assume the propaganda from the meme “news article” is pointing at/trying to normalise 0 leave days per year bcs why not:
The orange in the pic above are minimums for first-time employees.
This data perhaps show a better picture (including how many employees actually take all their contractual paid leave - I occasionally leave a day or a few unused bcs I forgeti):
We have a right to minimum 20 days off every year, however they’re not paid the first year. Every year, you “earn up” next years vacation. When you switch jobs, the job you’re leaving will typically pay out your outstanding vacation money. To take an example:
Year 1 (job A): 20 days off (0 paid)
Year 2 (job A): 20 days off (20 paid by job A)
Year 3 (job A/B): Switch jobs to job B, get 20 days of pay from job A when leaving. 20 days off (0 paid by job B).
Year 4 (job B): 20 days off (20 paid by job B).
This effectively means that the only year in your life when you will be without 20 days paid vacation is your first year of employment.
Also, there are some minimum requirements regarding how much vacation you have to take, but you’re not required to take out all 20 days (as your post seemed to indicate).
All the above of course applies outside of public holidays, which are always paid.
Where did I imply you have to take all vacation days?
I’ve said a proportion, gave and example (two weeks or 10 workadays), and even posted a chart of proportion of people per country that actually use up all their vacation days. Eg 35% of Norwegian workers don’t use all their vacay days.
Sorry if I gave the wrong impression.
The orange in the pic above are minimums for first-time employees
Which made me think you meant “minimum” as in “you must take this amount off”. I understand now that you meant “minimum” as in “employers must allow you to take this much time off”.
As a contrast … afaik some countries require every employee to take a certain amount of vacation days in one go each year or the employer can get fined (the employer has to organise that or grant the opportunity for employees). Eg if you get the minimum 4 or 5 weeks per year off you have to take at least 2 of them consecutively.
It’s basically a forced leave that boosts productivity and lowers fluctuations for the entire county (+ it’s good for people/families/culture).
But I assume the propaganda from the
meme“news article” is pointing at/trying to normalise 0 leave days per year bcs why not:The orange in the pic above are minimums for first-time employees.
This data perhaps show a better picture (including how many employees actually take all their contractual paid leave - I occasionally leave a day or a few unused bcs I forgeti):
Norway here: This isn’t completely right.
We have a right to minimum 20 days off every year, however they’re not paid the first year. Every year, you “earn up” next years vacation. When you switch jobs, the job you’re leaving will typically pay out your outstanding vacation money. To take an example:
This effectively means that the only year in your life when you will be without 20 days paid vacation is your first year of employment.
Also, there are some minimum requirements regarding how much vacation you have to take, but you’re not required to take out all 20 days (as your post seemed to indicate).
All the above of course applies outside of public holidays, which are always paid.
Neat info, didn’t know about the first year.
Where did I imply you have to take all vacation days?
I’ve said a proportion, gave and example (two weeks or 10 workadays), and even posted a chart of proportion of people per country that actually use up all their vacation days. Eg 35% of Norwegian workers don’t use all their vacay days.
Sorry if I gave the wrong impression.
No worries :) I think it was
Which made me think you meant “minimum” as in “you must take this amount off”. I understand now that you meant “minimum” as in “employers must allow you to take this much time off”.
Ohh, that makes total sense, but I didn’t figure it out! (Couldn’t see it bcs I wrote it.)
And even with plural in minimums I could have added a few more words in there to make it a bit easier to read anyway.
Communication is hard, I’m abusing Lemmy comments just to maintain my poor skills :) (it kinda helps honestly, at least for some stamina).
It’s fun to interact though :) and the graphics were really great! Thanks for posting them :)
Thx for interacting! :)
Makes me proud of my country 🫡🇩🇰