What’s interesting about this case is that she’s an illegal who was deported years ago but snuck back in anyway. Did she forget about her illegal status? Or did she think she would be spared by supporting Trump?
The cynical answer is she thought the would be spared because she’s white.
The straight answer is that Trump told people the country was being overrun by criminals and gang members whom he would deport. People who bought that story thought those who didn’t fit that description would be safe.
Well, the thing about being a criminal is that it means you’ve been convicted of a crime.
Trump is a criminal. But he was born in the US to US citizens.
The goal is to make all sorts of things crimes such that it’s almost impossible to function in the US as a foreigner without committing a crime. At that point, the government can choose the people to deport at their whim.
Since birthright citizenship is being struck down, and this government interprets the constitution as only applicable to citizens, expect Trump to attempt again to pass legislation for more types of citizenship nullification.
One tricky bit is, if you’re declared legally dead, you immediately become an illegal resident if you’re still alive. And DOGE has already declared a number of people dead by misinterpreting a few databases.
One tricky bit is, if you’re declared legally dead, you immediately become an illegal resident if you’re still alive. And DOGE has already declared a number of people dead by misinterpreting a few databases.
I can almost imagine this being written by Douglas adams, but the consequences a little too depressing. You know, in contrast to the complete destruction of the earth
God, I just wish I could hitch a ride and slam some pan galactic gargle blasters for a while :(
Instead we’re stuck listening to Vogon poetry.
The best description ever of looking at the USA in 2025
Best I can do is a lemon peel wrapped 'round a gold brick.
Birthright citizenship was not struck down. Universal injunctions were struck down, which means the Constitution will be applied in any cases where a state has a law on the books or a class action suit has been brought and a statewide injunction has been declared. These suits will wind their way through the courts and may possibly be heard by the Supreme Court.
I’d like to predict the USSC would decline to hear the case because there would be no discrepancies in prior rulings and the legal question would be so obvious, but I’ve given up trying to predict this court. In any event, I do think it’s unlikely they would rule against birthright citizenship, since it would be plainly unconstitutional and there’s no real wiggle room to reinterpret it differently.
What would happen to them if they say birthright citizenship is not a thing,? If it only applied to former slaves? Or just offer no explanation whatsoever?
They could write an opinion that says “because Trump said so.” And I don’t think they would face impeachment, even a little bit.
Spared for sure. Like many legal citizens will think when the BBB hits, they will 100% blame dems but it’ll be Trump polices that will bite them. They are just too ignorant to realize.
Are those things going to be timed to hit after the mid-terms like many suspect?
100% correct
The cynical answer is she thought the would be spared because she’s white.
I’m unsure about that? Or at least if the likes of Stephen Miller would consider her “white”? She’s married to someone with the last name of “Olivera”. I’m not sure what her maiden name is, but even the “crime” of marrying outside the white race might be enough at some future stage of this…
I think this reply was meant for an adjacent comment
Trump wants mass deportations and he is getting mass deportations. I don’t think he cares if they pick up a few white people to pad the numbers a bit.
If illegal that means she didn’t vote, but supported?
Her husband voted for Trump. She was a supporter as well.
The question is, “Will he continue voting for the party that did this, despite ‘not supporting Trump’”
Because the moderate Republicans are leaving the government, and it’s the MAGA Republicans that remain. For example, Republican Sen. Thom Tillis voted against the BBB, but then made the announcement that he would not be running for re-election. And why? The Super PACs would have punished him.
That’s what I was trying to figure out, too - I didn’t see that she voted, only that she “supported” Taco and that her husband says he wants his vote back…
The fuck did any of them think this meant?
Wonder if the sign-holder voted for deporting brown people, but is possibly making use of Medicaid/Medicare?
She’s in a wheelchair but not a really nice wheel chair. I’d say the odds are pretty fucking good.
That lady is a sleep paralysis demon.
Or just a paralysis demon
HAH! I see what you did there, lol
Sleep implies this isn’t a waking nightmare. She’s just batshit and her being asleep is probably a better time for those around her.
She has a wheelchair. I wonder how she’ll be in the next few years.
If she’s not a Zionistic Christian, she might be deported, too
Only the mass weight of the criminals obviously, they love science!
“I thought this would happen to OTHER people and I was all for fucking up other people’s lives! Not MINE!”
I hate this graphic. Read top to bottom, “have the day you Voted for” which is obviously incorrect as you would only capitalize the first word of the statement, so it’s bottom to top/left to right, thus “Voted for day you have the” which is also clearly not correct. Even if you ignore the capitalization error, the statement is just shit. I get what it’s trying to convey, but it sucks ass at doing so. It’s a roundabout way of saying “you reap what you sow” but the creator got all “Live, Laugh, Love” (or I guess “live, laugh, Love”) about it and thought they were creative and smart.
I bitched about this like 6 months ago the last time I saw it, and I’ll bitch every time I see it. It’s awful on all levels. Mirror the rainbow, flip the text so it reads left to right + top to bottom, and they really need a sharper phrase in general.
That’s what you get if you are too lazy to create a simple graphic like this yourself and instead use an LLM for it.
Actually, I didn’t create it or use AI, I just stole it off someone else’s post.
I’ve been using it for weeks, and everyone else seems to understand the meaning just fine. I know upvotes don’t mean anything, but whenever I post it, it gets more upvotes than any of my typed comments.
Well, if it wasn’t you, somebody was too lazy to DIY it and created it via AI.
Dude, it’s just a graphic I got from somewhere else, and I throw it on posts where it seems to apply.
I get what bothers you, but I think you’re caring wayyyy too much about a little comment graphic to type all that out! I’ve posted it a bunch of times, and everyone seems to understand the meaning just fine in spite of the odd capitalization.
Maybe, but it’s a slippery slope where logical and quality arguments - even if it’s a simple image - lose their impact. The quality of an argument becomes diminished, and by letting that happen, you open yourself and your argument to criticism.
This isn’t a ‘you’ thing, I get that, but it is a fine, real-world example of it happening. If the creator of the image can’t be bothered to step back and see the obvious flaws, it has lost its merit before it’s even started, only being carrier by the people who are okay with spreading it without seeing the problems it has.
Would you put any trust into a professional of any field who cannot create an argument, be it text or image, that has such glaring issues? And you know the audience that this is trying to poke fun at will rip it to bits worse than I have. It has no impact, other than in echo chambers, where people overlook the obvious.
shrug
Everyone else seems to understand the meaning without needing to critique the design.
First time on the internet?
You miss the point of the comment, my guy. Can’t educate them all I suppose.
That’s the problem my guy, we don’t need to be educated. Everyone - including you apparently - gets the meaning, you’re the only one who feels the need to critique the design. Which is absolutely your right, but don’t look down your nose at me like I’m an uneducated buffoon because I don’t agree with your assessments.
Literally this
This is the kind of scenario I see in my head when one of these asshats say they wanted to “shake things up in Washington”. 🙄
It’s hard to build a system, even if it’s not working 100% perfectly (and no human institution is ever likely to do so). Very hard. It’s quite simple to break shit. Any toddler can kick over a sand castle.
But hey, at least we did something about the “status quo”, because having a status quo is automatically a bad thing according to a whole lot of fools and dumbasses.
This comic was posted right after Trump won the first time. We need a sequel where they burn the house down.
This but on the third panel they blame Biden and the democrats.
100% that last panel. Also, to really complete the DARVO effect, it could use a few third parties popping up to represent the Elevated Centrists, the “independents”, the “liberal media”, and a certain kind of “leftist” that like to blame the Democrats for not stopping the Republicans doing all the awful shit they get up to…
Pro tip: yes, you did vote for this, moron!
They literally wrote a playbook that included all the evil shit they were going to do.
They keep saying “criminals,” even in this story. Some of them are US citizens, one of them was 4. I’m pretty sure a 4 year old isn’t a criminal. Also, with no due process, we don’t know shit if they’re criminals or not. This is a money grabbing grift that is disappearing people, probably to death.
In Christian fascist America, 4 years old is old enough for the mines and marriage.
I’d go even farther. Since there’s been precious little due process, essentially none are criminal. Essentially none of those deported have been convicted of any crime.
And no, I’m not taking the word of the people who deprived them of that right while hiding their own faces
Yeah want to shake these people. They could deport YOU! your wife! Your CHILD! To a torture prison in the jungle! You don’t know if any of these people are criminals! You don’t know if they are citizens! You don’t know! They haven’t seen a judge! How would anyone know?
THEY CAN PUT YOU IN A VAN TOMORROW AND SHAVE YOUR HEAD IN CECOT THE DAY AFTER THAT!
They could send you to Syria. South Sudan, some other black site. No one would stop them.
So, a couple of things… Yes, their fault for being Trump supporters…
But also… She’s 45, she came here when she was 10. She’s had THIRTY-FIVE YEARS to become a US Citizen.
It does take an insane amount of time to work through the citizenship process, but it doesn’t take 35 damn years. Especially not after marrying a US citizen.
Source: Friend of mine did it based on refugee status from Lebanon. My daughter-in-law did it on a student basis from Burma after marrying our son.
you think becoming naturalized is going to stop them from deporting people?
naturalized are next “on the list” after they finish dealing with birthright citizens.
My parents moved to the US from Canada back in '98, became US citizens, and I’ve been hounding them almost daily at this point to come back home to Canada. At this point I don’t care if I go into massive debt providing for them or if I have to get a second job just to be able to afford a place to rent with more than 2 bed rooms.
I’m just so terrified every day that ICE is going to detain one of them or both. I just can’t get through to them that they need to leave the US and come back to Canada right now.
Oh no, they’ll still revoke legitimate citizenship, but she made it way too easy by, you know, not earning citizenship in the first place.
You could easily argue she was deported for trying to take the legal route. They grabbed her from her green card hearing
Realistically I’m sure it’s just laziness. ICE has quotas to meet and they realize they can’t meet them while performing due diligence. So, instead of finding and convicting criminals, set ambushes at immigration courts and places of work. It shows both the stupidity of quotas and the reality of creating “criminals” where none existed before
True, but it’s a green card hearing that should have been done 29 or 30 years ago when she was 15 or 16 and trying to get her first job. :)
She’s been here since the George H.W. Bush administration… plenty of time to have worked things out.
She married the American at 15 or 16?
So, yeah she should have done it after getting married. Her parents should have spent the thousands on lawyers to get it done as a kid. While sure you can file the paperwork yourself, the process is absolutely horrible for someone who’s a native speaker.
She’s Canadian, so pretty sure she’s a native speaker. Sure, could be French speaking…
She didn’t marry at 15 or 16, but that’s generally the age kids look to get their first jobs, that would have been the time to start looking at legal requirements.
I guess I don’t quite understand why we have a system where someone that comes here at 10 later has to take extra steps to become a citizen, honestly.
Well, if they come here at 10 and aren’t a citizen and don’t do the work to become a citizen, then they still aren’t a citizen.
I agree that’s a fair point. I just wonder why it’s even necessary to go through any extra hoops if you come here as a minor.
Well, the only guarantee is being born on US soil, there’s nothing in place for minor children who are already citizens of a different country.
I could imagine automatic citizenship like that would cause more problems. Other countries would be like “Hey, we didn’t authorize that!”
Well, the only guarantee is being born on US soil
Well…for now, anyway. 🤮
I guess I don’t know what the process is and how long the ordeal is, but it just seems weird that on top of all the other things one gets to do when thrown into adulthood is that they’d have some arduous process to go through.
I could imagine automatic citizenship like that would cause more problems. Other countries would be like “Hey, we didn’t authorize that!”
Fair. There is the problem of having to revoke it for countries that don’t permit dual citizenship, I guess. Maybe if the U.S. at least had a short form they sent out to minors just before they turn 18 and had a simple and quick thing they’d do to file for it. Something that should not take more than a month to get finalized. So maybe not entirely automatic, but very simple and straightforward and quick.
That being said, we have the system we have and this woman should obviously have adhered to the one we have…and also her husband should not be voting for the likes of Taco and she should not be “supporting” Taco, either.
That was the thing my daughter in law ran into… Myanmar doesn’t allow dual citizenship, so she had to give up her own citizenship to become a US citizen.
In the end, it’s safer for her now because she can visit her family and doesn’t have to worry about being immediately blocked re-entering the US.
The levels of dumb and laziness on her part say she got what she deserved. She could have earned citizenship and she could have become politically informed.
Trump voter: I only wanted to hurt other people!
Reality:
Awww sorry did you think Trump just meant blacks, latinos and middle easterners? My heartfelt condolences…🎻
Don’t forget the thoughts and prayers, that really does the job right
I’ll bet 1 internet point that they never vote anyone but republican for the rest of their lives even after this. The ones who don’t get deported of course.
Fuck all these people straight to hell. I’m for either stripping Trump states of statehood, turning them into commonwealths where they can pay for their own social security and medical coverage (because right now, the vast majority of them don’t), or going back to 1870 and sending in the Union cavalry to fucking keep them the fuck out of politics, allowing black people and immigrants to vote, etc. What horrible people. Fuck you and your grandmother too.
The sad thing is that these people are using our money and having Taco sending that money directed against blue areas. Once ICE gets all their funding, it’s about to get a whole lot worse.
Taco seems to be tearing this country apart. Gee, I wonder what two countries might benefit the very most from that?
“The only crime I committed is to love this country and to work hard and to provide for my kids,” she said.
Um… those aren’t crimes, are they? I mean, things are changing fast under Trump, but these aren’t really crimes yet, are they?
I think she may have forgotten about the felony she probably racked up by sneaking back in after being deported.
