What’s interesting about this case is that she’s an illegal who was deported years ago but snuck back in anyway. Did she forget about her illegal status? Or did she think she would be spared by supporting Trump?
The cynical answer is she thought the would be spared because she’s white.
The straight answer is that Trump told people the country was being overrun by criminals and gang members whom he would deport. People who bought that story thought those who didn’t fit that description would be safe.
Well, the thing about being a criminal is that it means you’ve been convicted of a crime.
Trump is a criminal. But he was born in the US to US citizens.
The goal is to make all sorts of things crimes such that it’s almost impossible to function in the US as a foreigner without committing a crime. At that point, the government can choose the people to deport at their whim.
Since birthright citizenship is being struck down, and this government interprets the constitution as only applicable to citizens, expect Trump to attempt again to pass legislation for more types of citizenship nullification.
One tricky bit is, if you’re declared legally dead, you immediately become an illegal resident if you’re still alive. And DOGE has already declared a number of people dead by misinterpreting a few databases.
One tricky bit is, if you’re declared legally dead, you immediately become an illegal resident if you’re still alive. And DOGE has already declared a number of people dead by misinterpreting a few databases.
I can almost imagine this being written by Douglas adams, but the consequences a little too depressing. You know, in contrast to the complete destruction of the earth
Birthright citizenship was not struck down. Universal injunctions were struck down, which means the Constitution will be applied in any cases where a state has a law on the books or a class action suit has been brought and a statewide injunction has been declared. These suits will wind their way through the courts and may possibly be heard by the Supreme Court.
I’d like to predict the USSC would decline to hear the case because there would be no discrepancies in prior rulings and the legal question would be so obvious, but I’ve given up trying to predict this court. In any event, I do think it’s unlikely they would rule against birthright citizenship, since it would be plainly unconstitutional and there’s no real wiggle room to reinterpret it differently.
Spared for sure. Like many legal citizens will think when the BBB hits, they will 100% blame dems but it’ll be Trump polices that will bite them. They are just too ignorant to realize.
The cynical answer is she thought the would be spared because she’s white.
I’m unsure about that? Or at least if the likes of Stephen Miller would consider her “white”? She’s married to someone with the last name of “Olivera”. I’m not sure what her maiden name is, but even the “crime” of marrying outside the white race might be enough at some future stage of this…
The question is, “Will he continue voting for the party that did this, despite ‘not supporting Trump’”
Because the moderate Republicans are leaving the government, and it’s the MAGA Republicans that remain. For example, Republican Sen. Thom Tillis voted against the BBB, but then made the announcement that he would not be running for re-election. And why? The Super PACs would have punished him.
That’s what I was trying to figure out, too - I didn’t see that she voted, only that she “supported” Taco and that her husband says he wants his vote back…
What’s interesting about this case is that she’s an illegal who was deported years ago but snuck back in anyway. Did she forget about her illegal status? Or did she think she would be spared by supporting Trump?
The cynical answer is she thought the would be spared because she’s white.
The straight answer is that Trump told people the country was being overrun by criminals and gang members whom he would deport. People who bought that story thought those who didn’t fit that description would be safe.
Well, the thing about being a criminal is that it means you’ve been convicted of a crime.
Trump is a criminal. But he was born in the US to US citizens.
The goal is to make all sorts of things crimes such that it’s almost impossible to function in the US as a foreigner without committing a crime. At that point, the government can choose the people to deport at their whim.
Since birthright citizenship is being struck down, and this government interprets the constitution as only applicable to citizens, expect Trump to attempt again to pass legislation for more types of citizenship nullification.
One tricky bit is, if you’re declared legally dead, you immediately become an illegal resident if you’re still alive. And DOGE has already declared a number of people dead by misinterpreting a few databases.
I can almost imagine this being written by Douglas adams, but the consequences a little too depressing. You know, in contrast to the complete destruction of the earth
God, I just wish I could hitch a ride and slam some pan galactic gargle blasters for a while :(
Instead we’re stuck listening to Vogon poetry.
Best I can do is a lemon peel wrapped 'round a gold brick.
Birthright citizenship was not struck down. Universal injunctions were struck down, which means the Constitution will be applied in any cases where a state has a law on the books or a class action suit has been brought and a statewide injunction has been declared. These suits will wind their way through the courts and may possibly be heard by the Supreme Court.
I’d like to predict the USSC would decline to hear the case because there would be no discrepancies in prior rulings and the legal question would be so obvious, but I’ve given up trying to predict this court. In any event, I do think it’s unlikely they would rule against birthright citizenship, since it would be plainly unconstitutional and there’s no real wiggle room to reinterpret it differently.
Spared for sure. Like many legal citizens will think when the BBB hits, they will 100% blame dems but it’ll be Trump polices that will bite them. They are just too ignorant to realize.
Are those things going to be timed to hit after the mid-terms like many suspect?
100% correct
I’m unsure about that? Or at least if the likes of Stephen Miller would consider her “white”? She’s married to someone with the last name of “Olivera”. I’m not sure what her maiden name is, but even the “crime” of marrying outside the white race might be enough at some future stage of this…
I think this reply was meant for an adjacent comment
If illegal that means she didn’t vote, but supported?
Her husband voted for Trump. She was a supporter as well.
The question is, “Will he continue voting for the party that did this, despite ‘not supporting Trump’”
Because the moderate Republicans are leaving the government, and it’s the MAGA Republicans that remain. For example, Republican Sen. Thom Tillis voted against the BBB, but then made the announcement that he would not be running for re-election. And why? The Super PACs would have punished him.
That’s what I was trying to figure out, too - I didn’t see that she voted, only that she “supported” Taco and that her husband says he wants his vote back…