I don’t think any action against the IDF or Israel is Antisemitic in any way, shape, or form.
I also see “death to the IDF” as a statement advocating the death of the entire adult population of Israel, and we have a word for that which rhymes with engocide.
How does “death to the IDF” mean death to the entire adult population? Regardless of mandatory service in the past, they aren’t in the IDF now, and they aren’t the ones “just following orders.” I also don’t think Bob Vylan is actually suggesting that every person in the IDF be killed, regardless of complicity, but calling for the downfall of the organization perpetuating genocide.
“Death to ICE” doesn’t mean the same thing as “kill all ICE agents.”
Missing the point. “Death to [organization]” is not synonymous with “kill all members of [organization].” Even if it did, my other point is that the entire country is not in the IDF. You’ve made claims and extrapolations that have nothing to do with anyone’s actual beliefs. It wouldn’t be genocide regardless.
Listen, too many in this world acts like it’s impossible not to make problematic statements about the mass death or exodus of others. I do not have that problem that they seem to find unavoidable. Death to every [blank] is pretty much always a bad statement to make.
Just don’t say those things and you will never be misunderstood.
You continue to change the narrative. The did not say “Death to every [blank].” You said that. They said “death to the IDF.” If I say “death to capitalism,” I’m not saying “kill all capitalists.” They’re calling for the downfall of an evil organization. You are choosing to misunderstand them and put words in their mouth. You keep walking back your initial exaggeration. They clearly do not mean kill all Israeli adults. This is the same willful misinterpretation that the rest of the neoliberal media does.
It was a hypothetical. Pretending those two statements are the same is willful ignorance. You’re continuing to pearl-clutch over a statement that doesn’t mean what you’re claiming it does. You’re putting words and intent I people’s mouths and then making moral judgements based off your misinformation. You’re making ad hominem attacks against a hypothetical. How are you still trying to justify an untenable position?
I don’t think any action against the IDF or Israel is Antisemitic in any way, shape, or form.
I also see “death to the IDF” as a statement advocating the death of the entire adult population of Israel, and we have a word for that which rhymes with engocide.
How does “death to the IDF” mean death to the entire adult population? Regardless of mandatory service in the past, they aren’t in the IDF now, and they aren’t the ones “just following orders.” I also don’t think Bob Vylan is actually suggesting that every person in the IDF be killed, regardless of complicity, but calling for the downfall of the organization perpetuating genocide.
“Death to ICE” doesn’t mean the same thing as “kill all ICE agents.”
So you’re making the additional distinction of only people who currently actively serve in the IDF and not any previous members?
Missing the point. “Death to [organization]” is not synonymous with “kill all members of [organization].” Even if it did, my other point is that the entire country is not in the IDF. You’ve made claims and extrapolations that have nothing to do with anyone’s actual beliefs. It wouldn’t be genocide regardless.
Listen, too many in this world acts like it’s impossible not to make problematic statements about the mass death or exodus of others. I do not have that problem that they seem to find unavoidable. Death to every [blank] is pretty much always a bad statement to make.
Just don’t say those things and you will never be misunderstood.
You continue to change the narrative. The did not say “Death to every [blank].” You said that. They said “death to the IDF.” If I say “death to capitalism,” I’m not saying “kill all capitalists.” They’re calling for the downfall of an evil organization. You are choosing to misunderstand them and put words in their mouth. You keep walking back your initial exaggeration. They clearly do not mean kill all Israeli adults. This is the same willful misinterpretation that the rest of the neoliberal media does.
If you say Death to Capitalism I also think you’re a fucking psycho in that context, too.
It was a hypothetical. Pretending those two statements are the same is willful ignorance. You’re continuing to pearl-clutch over a statement that doesn’t mean what you’re claiming it does. You’re putting words and intent I people’s mouths and then making moral judgements based off your misinformation. You’re making ad hominem attacks against a hypothetical. How are you still trying to justify an untenable position?
oh sorry, let’s just politely ask the murderers to stop murdering for the 100th time today, maybe this time it will work!
Lets just do this: kill or put on trial netanyahu and any active combatants.
Just as important, establish a new rule of law in the region which will respect the value of human life and fairly dispute land claims.