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Are you voting for time travel so you can travel back to the 1940s, become supreme leader of Israel, and change the 70 years of Israeli domestic policy that has led us to this point?

Honestly I think they’re just to pretend like that doesn’t exist. I would be interested to hear their stance on it though.

There isn’t a lot of self consistency with the conservative logic around abortion. Abortion is murder to them, but they drive by abortion clinics every day and do nothing. You’d think a building dedicated to murdering children would demand a stronger response.

Abortion is murder, but it’s okay to murder the child if it wasn’t conceived under the right conditions.

Abortion is murder, but we can leave it up to the states to decide when it’s murder and when it’s okay.

Just a lot of mental gymnastics.

They’ve backed themselves into an ideological corner.

For years the right has campaigned against abortion on the premise that “life begins at conception”. Because of this stance IVF puts them into a tricky situation: continue to maintain their extreme view that life begins at conception and oppose IVF, or accept IVF and concede that life doesn’t begin at conception.

If they accept IVF then that undermines their entire argument against abortion, which is obviously not a choice you make if your goal is to make all abortions illegal. So conservstives take the ridiculous stance that IVF embryos are babies, and since some embryos are lost during the IVF process, IVF must be murder.

That’s very true, I should of said “from a civility standpoint it’s an improvement”.

Pretty much every Trump debate has been like this. This one was actually an improvement from 2020 and 2016 because his microphone was turned off so he wasn’t able to just yell over the other person and constantly interrupt.

Newsome would have to resign as Governor and I’m not sure he wants to do that for a long shot presidential campaign.

Newsome polls very poorly against Trump and he also isn’t very popular in his home state as Governor.

What is wrong with you? It’s very clear that the issue that makes organizing in the Texas 33rd is the extreme gerrymandering. What question did you think you were answering when you confidently answered “the interenet”? Were you just saying random shit hoping no one would call you out on your bullshit?

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Lol, bazinga, you nailed me. Good job comrade, another lib owned!

You could just say you don’t understand how federal laws are passed in the United States and I’m sure someone would you the ELI5.

This video is a pretty great introduction to how laws are passed.

Once you understand that hopefully you’ll understand why Joe Biden can’t just do all the things he’d like to.

One of my links shows AOC has opposed the genocide of Palestinians since 2021. How far back do we need to go?

It’s pretty apparent you have no evidence to support any of your claims and are trying to move your own goal posts.

At this point you’re just spreading misinformation and poorly trying to push some kind of weird narrative.

Have a good day.

I know it’s hard to provide a source for a negative, but do you have any showing she is friendly to Israel and the AIPAC?

These suggest she is harshly critical of Israel, the AIPAC, and the invasion of Gaza: CNN, March 2024

NY Times, September 2021 This article shows a history of being critical of supporting Israel

Times of Israel, November 2023 This is a biased source, but it contains the tweets where AOC directly condemned the AIPAC

NY Times, November 2023 MSNBC, June 2024

The last article seems to be about the “Zionist lobbyist on her live-stream”, where AOC said:

Criticism of the Israeli government is not inherently antisemitic and criticism of zionism is not automatically antisemitic. That being true does not mean that we should not recognize criticism and when that criticism crosses a line into real harms against our Jewish community.

Do you have the quote where she said “criticism is Israel is antisemitism”?

Why didn’t the AIPAC spend $15 million to buy AOCs seat as well if that’s all there is to it?

I think something you may not be taking into account is that Bowman’s district was redrawn since he first got elected, drastically changing his constituency:

The congressional district’s boundaries have shifted since Bowman first won office in 2020, losing most of its sections in the Bronx and adding more of Westchester County’s suburbs. Today, 21% of its voting-age population is Black and 42% is non-Hispanic white, according to U.S. Census figures, compared to 30% Black and 34% white in the district as it existed through 2022. Bowman is Black. Latimer is white.

This change made him particularly susceptible to a primary challenge, regardless of PAC spending.

This article shows the AIPAC has contributed almost $900 thousand to Wesley Bell’s campaign as of April 30th. This isn’t total spending in the race, just direct campaign contributions. Still less than they contributed to the Latimer’s campaign for sure, but not insignificant. We’re still almost 6 weeks until the Missouri primary election which is when the spending usually ramps up. To do an apples to apples comparison at this point in time would take more time than I care to invest but I’d love to see the results if you want to do it. Regardless of the exact figures, it’s clear the AIPAC is targeting only specific progressive Democratic candidates, and it seems to me the reason they’re doing so is because the candidates are already politically vulnerable.

Also Latimer beat Bowman by nearly 17% per NBC news.

I respect sticking to his principles, but sometimes in politics you have to do something you find distasteful for the greater good.

We have no idea what would have happened had Bowman kept his head down about Israel, but we do know that speaking out against the invasion of Gaza and calling for a ceasefire didn’t really move the needle on actually achieving a ceasefire. It did make him unpopular with his constituents and made him vulnerable to a primary challenger.

Now Bowman is probably going to lose his seat in congress and there’s one less progressive voice and vote in congress.

I don’t know what the full outcome of this will be, but sometimes doing the right thing causes more harm than good in the very morally gray area of politics.

Why do you think that is?

My opinion and all the evidence I’ve seen is that It’s because AOC wasn’t vulnerable.

Polls from March show Bowman was already in trouble as far back as March. Bowman’s campaign (the Upswing research poll) showed Latimer and Bowman were essentially tied. That’s bad for an incumbant. The AIPAC poll from the Melman group around the same time showed an overwhelming preference for Latimer over Bowman. That’s when the AIPAC started pouring money in to the campaign to exploit that weakness.

The AIPAC research showed Bowman was vulnerable, similar to why the AIPAC is spending big to replace Cori Bush but they are essentially leaving Ilhan Omar (so far).

The AIPAC analysts are highly skilled at collecting and analyzing data. This allows them to know how and where to spend their money to get the maximum return on their investment. They aren’t going to waste money trying to defeat a candidate like AOC who is still largely popular with their constituents.

This is really unfortunate. Bowman had a choice between doing what he thought was right and oppose Israel’s invasion of Gaza or keep his head down and probably get reelected.

I feel this is a great example of the Overton window in action, and AOC easily winning her primary shows how broadly the window can vary even in adjacent districts.

What a weird reason to make an account.

Which Trump policy’s do you expect to cause deflation significant enough to reduce your grocery bill?

Which Trump policy’s do you expect to reduce your dependcy on owning a car so that you won’t be at the mercy of oil companies, car manufacturers, and insurance companies in order to survive?