mixture of experts leads to no where and I know boltzmann brain but I can simply say, being a figment of someone’s imagination doesn’t decrease my pains and struggles, implying that my pain were the proof of my being, can be fictious but won’t change my reality

well, how? what issue would this particular solution give rise to?

but cant such system be built with open standards, run upon shared public infrastructure

well technically someone had to do it, humans can’t and in this game of poker only gods can intervene to save the day

that means I get the answer, the unfeasibility of the solution is not in itself, but rather in its deployment.

ngl, Spotify has become hot ass these days

I understand and I think your last paragraph is very poetic! And I agree with you partially, but I think in certain cases, it’s better to find the one general case the solution fits to and add the edge cases as it grows.

But putting the question of model selection aside, do you think this system would be practical, theoretically of course?

what if it gets magically implemented by god and it is the absolute power, only power above the system would be that of the masses. No small group or individual get’s privilege above the computer program

Also, I am a computer science student, I just had distributed systems, machine learning, deep learning and Artificial intelligence in my course last semester. Though I don’t have tons of practical experience here, I have a basic theoretical foundation.

By distributed systems, I was referring to an architecture similar to a blockchain and its fault tolerance and leader election algorithm.

First: I believe a simple predicate logic to determine ethics, eg is below. Then a GAN to simulate situations and receive feedback from it. Humans would monitor this and keep a track of decisions that were incorrect.

Second: I proposed a distributed network of rule based AI systems that polls on the notion. The different polls would be because different systems would lead different regions. Say our country has 6 states, my state wants nation wide farming subsidy bill to be passed but on this notion no other system agrees, than the notion get pulled back for review. And the state system, would have multiple local systems established. Even if by some reason some systems are pwned, then the network would still stand.

Third: See, in USA particularly, Trump got elected because major media outlets say, a lot of people didn’t show up to vote and a lot of young people jumped the gun. So, let’s say this margin of error was because of unaware citizens… will the rule based decision maker make this mistake? No, because access to information is universal and transparent, and since AI systems are receiving the suggestions from humans they won’t have any problem with making wring calls as the system is transparent

Fourth, for the handwaving part: The clauses I meant were:

• The people would get elected much like traditional systems.
• Elected individuals would be temporary and can’t get elected multiple times, say after 4 times
• Succession of position would not be by money, bloodline or any influence since this process would be monitored by the said system.

Yes, I do believe this is a lot of handwaving and fictious ideas but I think humans can’t do correct surveillance and we can’t hold the power and not get corrupted, thus its better that a computer program that can’t go further than it’s purpose, monitor us and hold the power. Since no single one will be more powerful than the system yet the population would rule itself leveraging the system

absolutely agreed, the society wont let this system establish but let us assume it get’s established, my reasoning was, the chain of command would be simpler to see and everything would be transparent!

dude I doubt this, though I believe certain parts of your claims are true but they aren’t coherent with the later idea about an algorithm being authoritarian and having intent, can you show me some recent anomalous numbers or evidences of model over simplyfying or tunneling the logic from one context to another

Well putting aside those concerns obviously, if anyone has power why would they relinquish in the first place and even if they do, they would still want privilege.

So, I’d like to draw a parallel to Blockchain. There were cases when security breach happened but nowadays the network is so resilient that attacks target the weaker links: humans; rather than the node.

So first of all, What:

• Simple predicate logic
• who decides the logic? open standards anyone who has a point can draft a point or share their idea
• I know it will be hard, time consuming and very tedious, but it’s just an Idea, not like those in power would ever relinquish it so easily.

secondly, I have read about EU laws and it is very challenging but unlike that case, system implemented here would be very fluid, law’s validity period is determined by 2 things:

1. People’s choices
2. it’s relevance as decided by the system during polling Which would still not make this system very democratic in a sense but it would really just be distributed AI autocracy, at least the way I see it, its similar to local AI overlords ruling us.

I think there can be many more standards that can be implemented to keep the system bias proof and strongly ethical.

One tangential question I had was:

• If LLM’s logic is structural and derivable, even though complex then why aren’t algorithms and models tend towards rule based predictions like black scholes model and mdp, or am I just a newbie and hasn’t seen enough and I am out of my depth again

Setup a simple priority queue for decision making. Say for example in my country, heavy rainfall affects the grocery prices a lot. So during these times in many extreme conditions, families have to skip meals. Thus government should drop ideas of economic growth for a minute and help setup infrastructure that can prevent such panic situations. This is a simple decision that demonstrates what I meant.

Plus the systems top most priority should be its citizens health above all. So any policies about hurting poor would be out of the box. Plus points for policies that implement education, awareness and healthcare for the masses, while tackling the economic frontier and defense frontiers.

The weights to the problems would be assigned based on polling and similar ideas.