TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)

Are these Black and Hispanic voters going to the guy that talked about immigrants “taking Black jobs?” or eventually “taking Hispanic jobs too”? How can any minority vote for a man that is clearly a racist through and through. His father was a racist, arrested marching with the KKK, and they both got fined for not renting to people of color. He has a history of using minority and immigrant labor so he can threaten and cheat them out of pay. The list goes on and on. Biden may not be a saint (far from it), but he at least believes in democracy.

Also that debate was the perfect storm for Biden.

• 1. He was clearly getting over a cold and sounded like he needed to clear his throat the whole time.
• 2. Because of #1 it made overcoming his speech issues like his stutter all the more difficult, requiring more mental processing than normal.
• 3. The debate format of no guardrails and having 2 minutes to both try and state your talking points, and also trying to counter the absolute bullshit word salad of lies Trump was spewing his way was a lot to process for anyone, let alone an 81yr old.
• 4. CNN gave in to the Right and dropped the fact checking that afternoon, but Biden really had no choice but to show up. Imagine what conspiracy theories would have come out of Biden pulling out last minute because his campaign knew it was going to be a shit show. You can’t reason with people acting in bad faith, and once the fact checking was removed this “debate” was a lose/lose situation for Biden.

I don’t disagree that Biden’s showing was disheartening, but I also think the fact that he was actually trying to convey a message, while having a firehouse of shit spewed at him from his right should factor into that as well. It was a “debate” with someone acting in bad faith and Joe trying to follow the rules, with basically no moderation at all. It wasn’t a debate, but more like trying to have a rational talk with a kid that just keeps sticking out his tongue and making fart noises.

Right, only the modern interpretation of an original text that very few people in the world has even seen, let alone able to read. And then all the MANY offshoots of Christianity because each had something people didn’t like, a “leader” made a new “version” for them. Forced indoctrination like this is very similar to starting a cult, as almost all of those start with someone that needs to interpret the text or “God’s” word.

I think it would be an interesting exercise for everyone pushing this to have to compare and contrast with say David Koresh, or Joseph Smith, and explain how their version of God’s word isn’t a cult.

Reading the Memorandum, it doesn’t specify what Bible is to be used. Perhaps malicious compliance uses a “alternative” version?

Also found this from the Satanic Temple (who hopefully is on top of this) -

If a public school permits the distribution of religious materials to the student body, they have opened a limited public forum and are obligated to allow religious materials from other faiths. This principle applies to other forms of school-sponsored religious expression as well.

Also funny how these hypocrites go on and on about indoctrination, and then want to indoctrinate every kid in the state by law.

If you go back further though, translation of the text to a language the “people” could understand was illegal. Anyone caught with such texts was imprisoned or worse. Those in charge and using religion to control the masses (it’s true intention IMHO) didn’t want everyone to be able to read it, they wanted people depending on the “chosen” to teach and judge them (what today we may call a cult).

He also followed that up with a line about immigrants coming after Hispanic jobs. I don’t know how any “debate” can be taken seriously when a candidate can say shit like that and the immediate follow up question isn’t, “Mr. Trump, what is a Black or Hispanic job?”.

I think it’s a bit of a dog whistle as well.

“Their taking Black jobs, and their taking Hispanic jobs …”

“What exactly is a Black or Hispanic job Mr. Trump?” should have been the follow up on that one.

These are companies not people (even though we treat them that way when convenient), and they broke a regulation that is part of their expected operating procedures. Why are we dragging this into court and seating a jury because a company didn’t do the thing they were supposed to do. They should have no presumption of innocence, the inspection is the proof one way or the other. This just lets them further delay any consequences, and will be another thing calculated into their cost analysis of “are we going to follow the rules” or is it more cost effective (at least short term because that’s what shareholders care about) to just NOT ever follow the rules, delay any fines, rinse and repeat?

Why bother? What drugs are we hoping to find and be like “gotcha!”, that’s why he had such a convincing word salad about magnets, windmills, sharks, and batteries when asked about his plan for a future term.

So his stance is he’s not a villain because he only worked at camps full of abuse, but because he wasn’t “in charge” it’s not an issue? Maybe if he could have done something about the abuse, well unless he was also abusing kids? But who the hell stays at a camp you know is full of abuse unless you’re also abusing them?

This is quid pro quo being ruled as NOT bribery because it comes to the person on the backside of the favor. This is almost certainly to do with the majority of the court recently being outed about the amount of high value bribes gifts/vacations they are getting from “friends”.

There is a HUGE difference in my mind on what is being debated here, and what the Far Right are alleging. The Far Right is saying that Biden has dementia like symptoms 90% of the time, and then for big things like the State of the Union and now this debate, someone gives him a bunch of drugs and all of a sudden his dementia is 100% gone and he is sharp and full of energy. All the stimulants in the world aren’t going to reverse the stage of dementia they allege that Biden has (or that Trump has - and may well be self treating that way).

I did a little research of my own to see if any actual studies existed about the effect of stimulants on people with dementia and found, this one and this one.

The first had the following quote:

Although patients showed improvements in apathy scores, the authors cautioned that benefits were modest (that could be due to the modest study size). In addition, patients did not show improvements in tests that measure how successfully they complete activities of daily living, like getting dressed and preparing meals. Nor did the drug lead to improvements in tests of memory and thinking skills. It might take longer than six months to observe significant differences on those parameters, or it might also be function of the age of the patients.

This was also after 6 months, not a pill before “show time”. Also remember that Biden is 81, to much up could turn his lights off.

The second study found this:

There were no significant treatment effects on cognition and clinical outcomes, as expected given the short trial duration.

This study was over 12 months, so double the other and nothing.

Edit - ugh … spelling.

That drug is not being used in the context of the GOP allegations with 100% certainty. Dementia treatment drugs, including that one you linked, are not just pop them before the debate and your “symptom free” and/or all of a sudden a word smith. We don’t have drugs that bring people back to the degree the GOP is claiming Biden is, and trying to both sides this just gives validation to these wild conspiracy theories.

Biden is old, and that is what people are seeing and trying to both sides. There are times when an 81 year old man is going to be unsure what to do, but it’s because they are old and the world has changed a lot in 80+ years. But we also have Fox and others editing videos, like cropping Biden interacting with a paratrooper so they are out of the frame and he looks like he is facing the wrong way and lost. This is part of their “flood the zone with shit” plan that makes it so we are even discussing this like it’s a both sides issue instead of just Trump being a few years away from being another Regan.

Edit - autocorrect hates me. 😩

What are you trying to point out here? That we have dementia medication that helps keep patients awake?

If so, that is missing the point of the fact that being awake does not mean “alert” or “amped up” which is what the GOP keeps claiming. They are also stressing that Biden can actually speak in full sentences and convey ideas. He may stumble from time to time, but he is in his 80’s and has struggled with a stutter his whole life. He will also catch and correct himself.

Trump has the “amped up” part covered with his uppers, but he can’t put together a logical sentence, let alone an idea or “paint a picture” of his plan for anything. He increasingly has ticks and brain skips where he gets stuck and has to just bail.

In their current state, I would argue none of them are actually alternatives in the sense of being a real replacement. None of them is setup to scale, making the moderation/filtering point kinda moot.

Adderall, if you don’t have ADHD, will act as a stimulant but does nothing to make you smarter or more coherent. It also does nothing for dementia that the Trump team wants everyone to believe Joe has, somehow without symptoms. Trump on the other hand has MANY symptoms of dementia, and appears to be declining quickly.

Pretending that a drug even exists that somehow Biden could take that would make him alert and dementia free for a debate (or State of the Union) just helps muddy the water around Trump’s decline.

I’m agreeing with you, and just try to explain the “why” part, as some people just hear “performance enhancing drug(s)” and don’t stop to think what that even means for man in his 80’s.

To your point, the amount of money/effort to even try and rival YouTube (and/or Google) would be a hell of a task for sure. Since you would want it to be open, well moderated (but not so much that the majority of people scream “censorship!”), and be able to store/encode/serve a wild amount of video daily. And the later 2 things get exponentially more difficult as you scale.

It would need to be like the Fediverse on steroids, doing a distributed filesystem allowing every federated member to host/encode/serve part of the burden (like Kazaa/Limewire/DC++) but in some manner that people could be assured node hosts couldn’t tamper with videos. And then you would also need some sort of reward for creators that wouldn’t somehow lead to greedy power struggles causing an implosion of your open platform.

Ah, to dream.

They can’t, because no drug is available that both pumps you up, and helps the symptoms of dementia for a short burst of time. It’s all an effort to muddy the water about Trump’s clear cognitive decline that appears to be accelerating. If elected for another term, he may well be like Regan, with an even more evil “Nancy” in his ear “guiding” him everyday (and to essential be running the country while keeping Trump’s decline on the DL).

Just took a look at them, and Rumble is for sure a hard pass. The 2 rows under “news” is all far-right extremist videos, which is great if you are aiming for the Parlor/Truth Social/Nazi and Nazi sympathizers of the internet, but I think you’ll miss most of the world going that toxic on the frontage.