420blazeit69 [he/him]

It’s laughable to cry “whataboutism” when discussing international politics. Comparing how countries act in similar situations is one of the foundations of international law.

Which politicians, and what is your source for popular opinions in Hong Kong?

The ur-gooner

Love how you counter concrete, material facts like “guaranteed housing, employment, and childcare” with fact-free scare mongering like “political pressure” and “control over the media.”

There’s never any analysis about what this shit really means. “The fucking stasi” gets thrown out there like “the boogeyman” without even a thought towards how the U.S. security state violently repressed a nationwide movement against police violence in 2020, or how right now that same security state is violently repressing people protesting the genocide we’re supplying. You’re supposed to belive the stasi is the worst thing possible without ever digging into how it functioned, and certainly without asking how it compared to other states.

See also:

A new book by Kristen Ghodsee, an anthropologist at the University of Pennsylvania, argues that women have better sex under socialism.

If that sounds strange to you, consider this: A survey of East and West Germans after reunification in 1990 found that Eastern women (the socialist side of Germany during the Cold War) had twice as many orgasms as Western women.

What in the world accounts for such a wide gap?

According to Ghodsee, it’s about social safety nets. If, she argues, you build a society that supports women and doesn’t punish them for having children or devalue their labor, it turns out they’ll be happier and have better sex.

But it doesn’t matter how many studies or surveys or policy differences you point to – some guy always has an old relative whose story outweighs everything.

You got bodied and took it like a piss baby

grow up, get a job, buy a calculator

“The only people who struggle with housing costs are stupid children”

If all you did was drop a wiki link that’s a pretty worthless comment. Do you think China is the only country where dissidents get in trouble with the government? Do you think the U.S. doesn’t harass (or worse) dissidents?

Who knows, use your words

massive fragile ego, frankly horrible, acting shitty, basic fucking table stakes

you come across as hostile

Go back to reddit

If you can take a moment to move your massive, fragile ego out of the way

Lmao do you think of yourself as a professional?

LinedUp

Or they pad it with a ton of absolute garbage

The thing about genocide is that the concept was formalized as a crime, meaning you do actually have a burden of proof, and you do actually have to provide evidence, and requiring, examining, and weighing the evidence is no more offensive than requiring, examining, and weighing the evidence against someone accused of murder.

And you do actually have to do this analysis, because “genocide” is thrown around all over the place as a political tactic, and plenty of accusations are bullshit (or are you a genocide denier if you call bullshit on the accusation of white genocide in South Africa?).

Who?

A mix of:

1. We can’t really know how things will play out, so I’m going to at least try to nudge things in a better direction. If that helps create a better world, good, if it does nothing, at least I can die in the water wars knowing I tried.
2. But things are very likely fucked, so I’m going to enjoy what I can in life while I can.

Yeah the thought process goes:

1. If you work hard, you’ll succeed.
2. Billionaires must have worked hard to become billionaires.
3. Poor people must be lazy because if they worked hard they wouldn’t be poor.
4. Give a hard worker a billion dollars and they’ll keep working, because they’re a hard worker.
5. Give a lazy person basic needs and why would they work again? They’re lazy.

How about firsthand testimony that can be corroborated. If you’ve ever been in court for anything, it’s standard to not simply take whatever story you hear at face value.

So point to a story you’re saying is true, then show how it can be corroborated (by video? by documentation?). Show how there is no realiatic alternate explanation. Explain how your corroborated story amounts to genocide, and isn’t just a story about someone being arrested, for instance.

There totally aren’t actual Uyghurs who have told their own stories or anything like that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/why-do-north-korean-defector-testimonies-so-often-fall-apart

Just because someone says something doesn’t mean it’s true. Do you think cops ever lie when they testify?

99% of the time, calling someone a genocide denier is just burden shifting. Genocide is a crime; you have to prove it happened, you can’t simply assert it did and then smear anyone who asks for evidence.

We have spy satellites that can read a license plates and genocides, by their very nature, leave a lot of evidence. If there were a genocide in Xinjiang we’d have what we see in Palestine: tons of documentation in a wide variety of news outlets about crimes against civilians and actions like UN officials resigning in protest.