• Stovetop@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    When was Iran tolerable? They’re still as much of a fucked up theocracy with a terrible record on human rights as they’ve been since the revolution.

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      2 hours ago

      And they’re less terrible than any country that is supporting Israel’s Holocaust in Gaza.

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      1 day ago

      I recall seeing a lot of posts on here praising the leadership whenever they said anything negative about Trump

      But that’s about the only stuff positive about Iran I’ve seen on here.

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      21 hours ago

      I said tolerable to the media. Been barely discussed in UK media until Israel attacked them, now they’re scrambling to justify it based on how bad Iran is…

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        21 hours ago

        I’m not in the UK, but I recall Iran being in the media a lot in China and the US. Back when Trump assassinated one of their generals during his first term, the recurring abductions and rapes of women and young girls by the morality police that sparked nationwide protests, the arms they are providing for Russia in their invasion of Ukraine, and now Israel’s unprovoked attack on Iranian infrastructure and citizens.

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          17 hours ago

          What do you expect iran to do want the whole west is imposing severe sanctions harming regular citizens. Iran as no choice but to work with russia. Iran could have been an neutral country if americans, israelis and britosh didn’t support the shah coup

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            16 hours ago

            I expect them to stop harming their own civilians, too.

            We don’t need to cheer on an oppressive, totalitarian regime just because they’re at odds with another oppressive, totalitarian regime.

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              2 hours ago

              Funny, I’ve been saying this for the last three years and liberals have been telling me that that makes me a tankie Putin simp.

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              16 hours ago

              I am cheering iran right to self defence not the regime harming their own civilians.

              Do you condemn israel starting the war and killing civilians ?

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                15 hours ago

                Yes I condemn Israel, this isn’t an either/or type of situation. Both countries are shitty.

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                  2 hours ago

                  Ukraine is also pretty shitty, but no one seems to have any problem understanding why people would cheer them on when they get attacked.

                  Funny how liberals can only extend that privilege to white countries

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                  15 hours ago

                  We saw how western and Israel intervention always has devastating effect to the population of those countries. The only rational way to think about this is Iran has to defend itself against foreign power known for indiscriminate destructions . Once once it is repealed . The Iranian population can fight against the regime

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          18 hours ago

          Basically nothing for 2 years (the protests ended), and the first term for Trump ended in 2021, so 4 years ago. The only thing I have seen is about arms sales, occasionally and it doesn’t express any opinion other than an Iran drone was used.

          In the last few days since the attack, it’s quite a lot about nuclear weapons that may be 2 months, 2 years or a 20 years away, and now about journalists. Basically, the strategy has changed to bumping them up the enemies list to justify the attacks.

          We don’t see much about the Syrian leader, as he’s not much of a terrorist now he’s working with the West.

          It’s interesting how media can pivot their narratives about who the heroes and villains are at any time, and it’s always in line with government foreign policy.

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      23 hours ago

      Welp, you convinced me, I now support killing as many Iranians, men women and children, as it takes to save Iranians from the yoke of the Islamic Republic. /s

      Waging war on Iran will not improve the situation of any Iranian, even the worst off. Do not use the name of the people who will be slaughtered by the millions for your warmongering propaganda.

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        23 hours ago

        Not sure how you got any of that from what I was saying. Feel free to take your black and white worldview somewhere else.

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          22 hours ago

          Oh, I just assumed that your parroting of the mainstream media justifications of this war of aggression to be an assent of this war. Sorry, my bad.