Too late, you are a war criminal just like Genocide Joe

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    2 days ago

    Notice the distraction, pulling you away from a current harm and looking instead at an opportunity to blame for a past mistake.

    Let’s reopen this criticism of these past mistakes later ok?

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      Mistake :  an action, decision, or judgment that produces an unwanted or unintentional result

      Biden and he knew very well what they was doing. That’s not a mistake

      I am sure that you agree that the statue of limitation do not apply to someone who committed a crime or assisted the killer. So why do you oppose condemning Biden and Miller and not forget what they did?

      Let’s reopen this criticism of these past mistakes later ok? Don’t you mean never when did any American president been brought to justice for war crimes ?

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        Are people dying right now? That’s an immediate need, if so.

        Are they in power right now? Campaigning for reelection right now? That’s an immediate need if so.

        Please don’t demonize “let’s focus on immediate needs” as I feel that’s a reasonable thing to want.

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          The immediate need is to not allow these weak willed genocide enablers anywhere near power again. We need the position of those connected to this administration to be in pile of pig manure, so that way we get people who aren’t absolute fucking cowards doing less than the bare minimum to maintain their own system.

          People are dying right now that Biden’s administration could’ve saved, but because the cause long precedes the effect, we need to be looking farther ahead. Weak liberals will be complicit at best, and monsters at worst, so we need to work every day until the next somewhat fair election to make their brand weak.

          When the fascists begin to bleed themselves dry, the left must lead the charge, not the money loving liberals. If we don’t lay that groundwork before most can envision the fight, we’ll have feudalists ushering in a “return to normalcy” with broad support from the public.

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          Sure war criminals can be free with no accountability when they no longer in power. What a terrible logic. We will demonize them as much as we want, you can’t stop that.

          Maybe if your presidents was held accountable like Bush , trump wouldn’t feel free to do all the terrible thing he does.

          Will you forgive trump and forget his crimes when he is out?

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        Probably because it does nothing now while children are burning to death.

        It should definitely not be forgotten… but it also shouldn’t be our focus. Because if you focus on the inconsequential you get the situation we’ve constantly been in the last… well probably at least as long as the US has been a thing.

        If this were more like reconstruction after the US civil war, where the damage has been done and we’re trying to recover from it, it might be the same. Where forgiving past mistakes causes massive consequences that are still being felt. We’re not at that point yet, if we ever manage to get there.

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          We can focus on more than one thing . There is no mistake here, a mistake is an unintentional action that have bad consequences. the USA been deliberately ignoring and helping Israel terrorism, occupation and oppression of Palestinians for decades

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            Sure, but what we are going to do about it now matters far more than what we’re going to do with the people no longer in a position to do anything about it.

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              if was criminals don’t face justice, at least it they should be remembered for what they did so history don’t forget

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                There’s sure gonna be a lot of them if we spend all our time wringing our hands about what they’ve done in the past instead of preventing it in the future!

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                  You can’t prevent anything from happening in the future if you refuse to keep wrong doing in the past relevant

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                    You can’t learn from the past if you spend too much time living in it.