• philpo@feddit.org
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    2 days ago

    Who says it is not the dominant force? End stage capitalism is pretty close to anarchy and we will see what happens next.

    After 25 years in healthcare and humanitarian work you get a grim perspective.

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      2 days ago

      If you were correct society as a whole would already exist as true anarchy, therefore humans are not inherently evil, greedy, or out for themselves. We could not coexist in any meaningful way if that were true.

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        2 days ago

        I really don’t know where you get your assumptions from but they are terrible

        The only reason society exists is because of a fucktonne of rules going back several thousand years about how you are supposed to behave in a society

        If you want to see what barebones humans without societal rules, read up on feral children

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          I really don’t know where you get your assumptions from but they are terrible

          I simply followed the logic from “The human population of over 8 billion is inherently evil, and greedy”, then determined that if that were true society couldn’t exist in the state it does now.

          The only reason society exists is because of a fucktonne of rules going back several thousand years about how you are supposed to behave in a society

          If everyone were as you claimed them to be (Inherently Evil, Greedy, etc) they would not abide by those rules and society would exist in anarchy. This is the logical conclusion of your assertion regarding general human behavior. This means that humans cannot be inherently evil because we currently do not exist in anarchy where everyone is doing and taking what they want.

          If you want to see what barebones humans without societal rules, read up on feral children

          If you want to see any animal at their worst, put them in a life or death survival situation.

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            24 hours ago

            The human population of over 8 billion is inherently evil, and greedy”, then determined that if that were true society couldn’t exist in the state it does now

            That is a baseless assumption, not a foundation for a logical argument. You have to change it into a question in order for it to be a hypothesis

            Otherwise you are just making stuff up and justifying it to sound good

            If you want to see any animal at their worst, put them in a life or death survival situation.

            Incorrect, and based of of feelings of what sounds good instead of truth.

            Humans at their worst is when they have power over other humans and consider them subhuman. This is not a baseless assumption like yours, but rather based off of history and psychology. A desperate person in a life or death situation may kill a few, but out of desperation not cruelty. A person with power over others he considers subhuman can kill MILLIONS