• FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    I literally get paid to do this type of work and there is no way for me to be an expert in all the services that our platform runs. Again, that’s kind of the point. Let the person who writes the container be the expert. I’ll provide the platform, the maintenance, upgrades, etc… the developer can provide the expertise in their app.

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      18 hours ago

      A lot of times it is necessary to build the container oneself, e.g., to fix a bug, satisfy a security requirement, or because the container as-built just isn’t compatible with the environment. So in that case would you contract an expert to rebuild it, host it on a VM, look for a different solution, or something else?

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        6 hours ago

        Containerfiles are super easy to write. For the most part if you can do it in a VM, you can do it in a container. This sort of thing is why you would move to containers. Instead of being the “expert” in all the apps you run, you can focus on the things that actually need your attention.

      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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        12 hours ago

        It’s not like it’s so hard to rebuild a container for the occasional services that needs it. but it’s still much better than needing to do it with every single service

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          9 hours ago

          It depends on the container I suppose. There are some that are very difficult to rebuild depending on what’s in it and what it does. Some very complex software can be ran in containers.

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            6 hours ago

            Yep, some people sort of miss the point of microservices and make some fairly monolithic containers. Or they’re legacy apps being shoehorned into a container. Some things still require handholding. FreeIPA is a good example. They have a container version, but it’s just a monolithic install in a container and only recommended for testing.