Hey, I didn’t say it first. If that’s what those fuckers want, it’s what those fuckers get. It’s not a slippery slope, it’s the same idea as the social contract (well, it is the social contract): if they won’t respect the rules then the rules don’t apply to them. That might sound like a good thing until you realise the rules protect, as well as bind.
Obviously yes, for now anyway. That’s a question of their legal status, and that doesn’t hinge on personal beliefs or views in America. Which is kind of exactly the point I’m making, if you were able to see it.
The founding charter of this country was built for slaver plantation owners and other mercantilists, not the average person. I’d argue that hardly anyone alive today truly values the founding intentions, only their distorted interpretations of such.
With that in mind and the current state of things in mind, I think a Balkanization of the US, if not North America, is inevitable.
That’s funny, I didn’t see any of those people specified in the document, and it’s been updated a few times too. Arguing intention might be interesting but it isn’t what I’m doing here; I’m going off the text of the document, and things like the right to trial are pretty valuable to me. Which of the civil rights guaranteed by the Constitution are the ones people mostly or entirely don’t care about, in your view?
MAGA are also Americans.
No true Scotsman and all that.
MAGA wipes their collective ass with the founding charter of this country so I’d argue that they are de facto fundamentally no longer Americans.
So you want to go on record as rescinding citizenship? Slippery slope, but you do you.
Hey, I didn’t say it first. If that’s what those fuckers want, it’s what those fuckers get. It’s not a slippery slope, it’s the same idea as the social contract (well, it is the social contract): if they won’t respect the rules then the rules don’t apply to them. That might sound like a good thing until you realise the rules protect, as well as bind.
Yes or no:
Are they citizens of the USA?
Obviously yes, for now anyway. That’s a question of their legal status, and that doesn’t hinge on personal beliefs or views in America. Which is kind of exactly the point I’m making, if you were able to see it.
'the fuck? That’s some fascist shit you’re spouting
You think “yes, they’re citizens of the USA” is fascist shit? You’re dumber than I imagined possible. I’ll spell it out for you:
If they’re not Americans, it’s by their own choice.
If you believe there should be rules that bind but do not protect, you know what that makes you?
Oh, I’m not dumb.
That’s you. From 6 hours ago. You are talking about stripping citizenship from people, correct?
The founding charter of this country was built for slaver plantation owners and other mercantilists, not the average person. I’d argue that hardly anyone alive today truly values the founding intentions, only their distorted interpretations of such.
With that in mind and the current state of things in mind, I think a Balkanization of the US, if not North America, is inevitable.
That’s funny, I didn’t see any of those people specified in the document, and it’s been updated a few times too. Arguing intention might be interesting but it isn’t what I’m doing here; I’m going off the text of the document, and things like the right to trial are pretty valuable to me. Which of the civil rights guaranteed by the Constitution are the ones people mostly or entirely don’t care about, in your view?
It’s called the no true klansmen fallacy when it’s about MAGAs
They didn’t want to be, they tried to rebel to keep slavery.
Our mistake in forcing them to stay, or at least not giving every slave owner to their slaves before moving on.
The US responding to it’s problems: “If we change the definition it’ll go away!”