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    That part of it, sure, but the guy was good at business and made some smart bets (that the microcomputer industry would explode, for one). Microsoft didn’t get as big as it has based only on their technical ability. They got there because they made the right decisions and were cutthroat against their competitors.

    Bill was at the right time and right place, but he was also the right guy. You gotta have them all.

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      Cutthroat is an understatement. He did a lot of illegal stuff in the USA and internationally because governments had no idea how he was exploiting them/breaking commercial law. He also bribed hundreds of governments and stifled innovation. The world would be a better place without him.

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        Got any source for that? That’s in pretty stark contrast to what I see him doing now with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

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          Keep in mind one of the biggest parts of Bill and Melinda Gates foundation is funding Charter Schools (a type of private school). The foundation is so large they functionally set the curriculum in our school system (since schools that don’t follow their curriculum don’t get funding).

          It’s not about charity, it’s about privatization and control.

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            No, they don’t set the curriculum, and charter schools are still free- also, generally from my experience public schools aren’t exactly bastions of good curriculum

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            I don’t see how funding education is a bad thing, and I don’t believe the Gates Foundation is intent on controlling things. It’s not like they get any equity for their donations.

            I’ll be honest, I had to look up what it even means to be a charter school, since they don’t exist in Canada (except for Alberta apparently). I’m not sure I agree with their weird public/private position for accountability, but I certainly don’t equate donating money to them as wanting control and privatization. Charter schools are also funded by tax dollars anyway.

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              Charter schools are a bit of a hot topic in the US right now because the GOP is pushing them really hard. There are pros and cons - it’s a complicated issue.

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        Sure, but that’s how business works when you’re as big a company as Microsoft. And he was good at it.

        I never said he was a nice guy, only that he was good at business.

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          So I agree that’s how it works with businesses under Anglo-Saxon style capitalism, but I disagree with that’s how it works across the world with large companies. There are large multinational corporations that are ethical. Not as successful in profitability as Microsoft, but they are more successful ethically and better for society.

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            Quite possibly. I wouldn’t know. Either way, Microsoft is an American company and plays by (or subverts, or writes) American rules.

            Money is power. Get enough of either and you get corruption. Some people fight the system, some people learn to profit off it. If it doesn’t work that way in other parts of the world, then it’s because their systems work differently than ours.

            Edit: quite possibly, not quit possibly. I’m a touch typist. I type every day. So why does my typing get worse with age?

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              Yes, what you’re describing is called the “Social Structure of Accumulation” in Political Economic theory.

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            I’d argue that American and some Western European companies are much more ethical than African child labor mines, Chaebol, and Zaibatsu

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      It’s easy to make some smart bets when you can make many bets and fail over and over and not become destitute.