• ackzsel@kbin.social
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      But you don’t. Because you don’t.

      Nobody does. Windows is closed source and its inner working is a trade secret. This means you cannot know how to lock down windows. Of course there are best practices based on info from microsoft or people who know a thing or two about info sec but it’s all guess work and/or trusting the developer by its blue eyes.

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        Thats something Ive never understood about closed source.

        The OS, in its entirety, is on your computer. Why are you not able to open it up and root around within it? Is it just encrypted to a degree it cant be cracked? Or is the legal ramifications of unraveling it just not worth unraveling it?

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      They have a point though.

      Windows automatically means you don’t have privacy and you cannot have privacy.

      On Linux you at least may or may not, depending on configuration.

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      But you don’t. Because you don’t

      Exactly, that’s the point he was trying to make.

      You can’t harden windows to the point of an acceptable level of security. That is the inherent nature of proprietary software.

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          Prove to me that your windows system is actually “hardened” and that you have no backdoors or telemetry broadcasting at all. At the very least, Microsoft still knows what you are doing, you cannot trust your 3rd party firewall because windows can still sidestep it.

          I don’t even know who the fuck those people are, all I can tell you is that there is a reason that any professional application that requires legitimate security, runs on foss systems, or at the very least source available. If you are too stupid to realize that, then you really don’t have any say in this matter whatsoever. It doesn’t even just include baremetal Linux either.

          I don’t know who you’ve been arguing with on this, but I actually make a living working on Linux machines, I’m not even coming at you from a freetard perspective, solely work experience.

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              you very obviously do not know how to administer windows systems

              ahem

              Active directory, Azure, Windows Server. Those three things are on my resume. I have extensive systems administration experience, being a good systems administrator requires you to be able to administrate more than one operating system.

              Yes, windows will ignore your firewalls rules if you try to block certain applications from broadcasting telemetry. I don’t need a citation because you can very easily test this for yourself. The fact that you need a citation tells me you don’t know shit about what you are talking about because it is incredibly easy to reproduce.

              You can rip these components out at the expense of usability, to the point where you could potentially have a secure windows system that is so useless, that you might as well just run desktop Linux or BSD. You will never see patches to potential backdoors, you will never see any bugfixes, hell to even begin the process of hardening windows, windows update is the very first thing you have to disable. Even windows AME’s team says that their spin of windows is not as secure as the average Linux distro for these very reasons.

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      1 year ago

      Imagine claiming to be technically competent and using Windows, being obliged to “lock it down” to made it a “non spyware”. Take your meds, dude.