This post is not only to try finding the best Mastodon instance/server but I also wanted to express about the Mastodon instances. Most of Mastodon servers are apparently harsh about other instances that include things they don’t like and are quite serious about getting those Internet points putting how the place isn’t welcome for “bigotry” and is for everyone and so diverse, and I wouldn’t have any problems with this if this wasn’t frequently used by people who will try to shut you if they disagree enough with you and will try to present themselves as so virtuous. You’d expect that the free side of the Internet would have people that value freedom and should let anything that isn’t a crime or something that prejudice the instance itself or whatever space they’re in but it seems this vision is getting far from the reality with time.

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    In this case, your action is saying things that are very similar to the kinds of things fascists say when they to try to get a foot in the door. You may be simply unaware, but you should at least be made aware of what the actions were.

    I don’t think you’ll face banning or widespread defederation for respectfully sharing opinions that don’t boil down to “trans people shouldn’t exist” or “women exist to carry fetuses to term”.

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      In that case consequences should be equivalent in size to my actions which were to type words and the only reasonable consequence would be a discussion; unless I’m preceeding a crime, which would be a threat, which itself is a crime. Also, I didn’t even offend him in any way so I don’t see sense in him talking about consequences as if I said some absurdity about someone.

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        No, a perfectly reasonable consequence of saying things is other people choosing not to hear them, and even not to let you say them in their private spaces. You’re welcome to find private spaces that are uncensored, but nobody else is obligated to listen / federate with those kinds of spaces.

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          I agree with that but a home and a private space open to the public are quite different despite being private and usually follow different set of rules but always follow different set of morals/ethics.

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            But many of these instances very much aren’t open to the public in the same sense as e.g. a cake decorating business. Plenty of instances require you to write a story about why you should be allowed to join; they’re more like clubs trying to foster specific environments (many of which boil down to “everyone who is tolerant is welcome”).

            Facing the reality that you might not be tolerant is probably uncomfortable, but if you’re happy with vocal modern American conservative politicians, you need to take a long hard look at yourself. Whether or not McCain in 2000 was just “not saying the quiet part out loud” (as opposed to actually tolerant), the modern ones absolutely are saying it out loud. And so of course if you spout things that align closely to a Boebert or MTG or DeSantis, those “everyone tolerant is welcome” clubs won’t welcome you. Same goes for the extreme-authoritarian-left tankies, by the way.

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              I can’t really align with anyone these days because everyone is kinda dumb or downright evil. I just know that I’m a right guy and I like freedom, my spectrum would be more of classic liberalism than conservative. Also, they’ll actively try to look at something to try to “incriminate” you if you disagree in anything and they’ll just exclude you anyways if they can’t incriminate you, it’s not uncommon for a normal person to get banned from something like a game community cause you disagree with anything or some will straight up ban you for criticizing the game but the common aspect is always you getting accused of some ism. It’s a tool these days used by bullies who are too spoiled to accept anything other than praises; so you’re always expecting these “inclusive communities” to be a shit place full of bullies and 9 times out of 10 it is the case (the one time it isn’t is because you found some illegal group pretending to be from the inclusivity circle).

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                I’d be super interested in seeing the “normal person” things you’ve said in a gaming community that got you banned.

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                  It occurs to me that people might still be removed from a community in which they “speak inclusively” if they’re saying exclusionary things in other places. People may decide they don’t want you in their social circles because of your actions in other circles. A Klan member or radical tankie who treats me nicely still doesn’t get to be my friend.

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                  1 year ago

                  A ring that you pay real life money for so you can get more EXP is a pay to win item.