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      And even if they did, modern Christians just handwave away as meaningless anything in the Old Testament they can’t justify because it’s been “fulfilled by Jesus”.

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      They will cherrypick a few passages that are unique to the KJV.

      You know, the specifically pro-monarchy version of the bible.

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        Yeah, I’m not American and English isn’t my first language.

        Because of this I was never aware of how many English translations of the bible there are. I also don’t understand how anyone would want to stick to a translation as old and outdated as the KJV when we have multiple more modern and likely more accurate translations available today.

        Yet SOMEHOW these American conservatives swear by the KJV and refuse to accept that other translations are likely more accurate and better to use.

        Some even believe the KJV is the only perfect translation apparently. No other translation is allowed or even considered. I saw a video of a pastor saying that the KJV fixes the source texts. Wtf kinda logic is that?

        Sorry for the rant. Feel free to ignore it.

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          Don’t apologize, you’re spot on.

          To put it simply, the don’t like the teachings of Jesus. What they want is a metaphysical justification for oppressing other people. It’s a tool of the privileged and the powerful - the very ones Jesus spoke out against. :)

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            Yeah I recently got into reading my bible more and so far I love what I’m reading about Jesus and his teachings. I think he’d be very upset if he had to meet most of his “followers”, though.

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              Jesus-from-Matthew (you know, the one written closest to the alleged events) is definitely my least-disliked NT main character.

              Too bad Jesus-from-John (and fucking Paul) are who actually gets worshipped.

              The bit where Matthew-Jesus says that preachers are like whitewashed tombs, shining on the outside and crawling with the most disgusting filth on the inside… 🧑🏼‍🍳🤌🏼

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                  Jesus has a massive punishment kink pretty much across the board; for a character who is pitched as bringing universal love, he’s really really into describing exactly how he’s going to throw most people into an endless pit of burning shit.

                  There’s good stuff too, including excellent sales advice (parable of the fig tree, the mustard seeds).

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                    There’s good stuff too, including excellent sales advice

                    I need to remember to keep an open mind while I read. More than just religion and faith to be learned here.

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                Don’t say that too loudly. Most of them have such a hard-on for Roman times and anything military that being called a Roman soldier might just make them think they’re some kind of modern-day warrior instead of recognising it for the insult it’s meant to be.

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      Apparently neither do libs. They NEVER talk about the rampant heresy of fascists. They’re perfectly content with equating religion to MAGA.

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        Oh I went to episcopal school and got tested on my knowledge of the Bible.

        Yes the entire maga movement is a massive violation of the First Commandment, right down to venerating golden idols.

        But Christianity is what Christians do.

        When Quakers became abolitionists in defiance of the clear instructions of the Bible that slavery is a good thing, should be preserved, and that slaves should be grateful, they are being Christians.

        When (some) Presbyterians allow women to lead church services, in defiance of the clear instructions of the Bible, they are being Christians.

        And when the overwhelming majority of American Christians wholeheartedly support maga, they are also being Christian.