• doctortofu@reddthat.com
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    I used to roll my eyes at all the “sheeple” comments, but to be honest, looking at what’s happening in the US recently and seeing how many people just capitulate to the bullies I’m not so sure anymore… It’s just really sad and depressing :(

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      You forget that like 40% of people in the US are fine with this. It’s more depressing when you realize the reason people aren’t fighting back is because they’re fine with it.

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        I wouldn’t say 40% are “fine with this”. Its more like 40% of Americans are some combination of: Uneducated by design, Brainwashed by decades of propaganda, Kept so far in poverty they can’t focus on anything but their next paycheck, indoctrinated into toxic religious communities, etc. The current state of the US, has been carefully molded and shaped into what it is now by the fascists in power.

        As for people not fighting back? Some are. Not enough of course, but that goes back to keeping people in poverty. It would take me, for example, 7 hours of driving just to get to my state capitol to protest. Not to mention a couple hundred $ in gas. People working two jobs and living paycheck to paycheck just can’t do that realistically.

        I hate that my country has turned into this fascist shithole and wish that more people would rally and fight. I hate that I’m sitting here making excuses for these people but I’m really trying not to lose my humanity in all this. The sad truth of the matter, though, is that people won’t fight unless their life is disrupted so much that it snaps them out of their survival mentality. Bread and Circuses and all that.

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        Fuck OFF. You know exactly what to do- it’s what your countrymen did, more than once, when they accomplished the things all of you have spent a couple centuries loudly taking credit for.

        Do you think there weren’t colonists who were worried that rebellion would cost them their livelihoods? Do you think your grandparents fought the Nazis risk-free? You aren’t special. Your shitty job that you hate isn’t special. They were real people- you understand that, right? Everyone who ever stood up for anything consequential had plenty to lose.

        For as long as I live, I never want to hear another American crowing about their oh-so-grand revolutionary spirit. But, sure, whatever- wait until your country decides to invade us and hope that we’ll take action since you spent three decades watching with your thumbs up your asses and failing to do anything while the rest of us accurately explained to you precisely what was going to happen.

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        You’re supposed to fight the small battles that come your way. You’re supposed to refuse to do the bad thing.

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        That is a great example of propaganda.

        It reads like a normal comment, but it’s literally intended to suppress any attempts at resistance by pretending there’s nothing that can be done.

        And the scary part is that the person who posted it might have fallen for it themselves and believed it when they posted.

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        This attitude is understandable but it is exactly the attitude that enables faschism. Germany in the 1930s is calling. The existential crisis, the fatalism, The call for a leader to make everything better. The time for change without risks is gone. Stakes gonna get much higher wirh time if the opposition does not move fast. Everybody has to get involved.

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        Your position is absolutely understandable. What you and your fellow citizens can do are

        • attending protests
        • battling the administration if you are the administrator of some company/agency/museum that the government wants to dismantle
        • making your voice be heard on social media as well

        The government wants you as apathetic as possible. Don’t let them be right

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            I don’t think that’s true. There’s big power in what people demonstrably believe.

            Knowing that everyone else is fighting back too is emboldening.

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              25 years ago, maybe.

              Now, seeing protest after protest while the Trump administration does whatever it wants EVEN HARDER is like watching the opposing team in Air Bud wring their hands about the rulebook while a fucking golden retriever dunks on them over and over.

              Peaceful protests are feeding demoralization and making things worse, not better.

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                Do you think sitting on your arse claiming there’s nothing to be done is more or less demoralising than singing in the streets with like minded people?

                Maybe you work different than most humans, but I think the answer to that is pretty obvious for the rest of us.

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        None of us want to lose our housing, our jobs, or our lives,

        Then you can go on doing nothing until you’re conscripted to invade Canada.

        And if we manage to do so, who the hell is gonna take his place? JD Vance? Some other fascist?

        You’re looking down a revolution here; why is your first reflex to name JD Vance? Put whoever you goddamn like in charge that’s the whole point.

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        Yes what just go into fascism because it’s hard to resist.

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        CaN’t fIGhT fAsCiSm cAUsE yOu gOtTa mAkE a BuCk.

        LOL murikkkans love to talk the big talk about tyranny but when fascism is right in their face it’s nothing but excuses.

        🤡