Democratic National Committee vice chair David Hogg’s plan to spend $20 million to primary older Democratic incumbents in Congress has sparked intense anger from some lawmakers.

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    23 hours ago

    As always, there’s some excuse for why the person who is trying to move the party to the left shouldn’t be doing that.

    It’s neat watching the party go from “Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good! It’s just a little genocide!” to “This guy who is primarying centrists who hold us all back doesn’t agree with republicans enough!”

    Of all of the people in this thread for whom the second amendment fills the void where a personality would be in a more complete person, not one cares about the incumbents’ opinions on firearms.

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      22 hours ago

      As always, there’s some excuse for why the person who is trying to move the party to the left shouldn’t be doing that.

      I don’t know if you didn’t get the memo or something, but the left likes guns now. Gun control is not “moving the party to the left”. Gun control is a plank in the old, establishment platform, and needs to be thrown out along with those ancient fossils.

      Of all of the people in this thread for whom the second amendment fills the void where a personality would be in a more complete person, not one cares about the incumbents’ opinions on firearms.

      Nobody gives a shit about the incumbent positions on anything, with the possible exception of their retirement. Get them the hell out of office, and bring in some actual leftists.

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        21 hours ago

        Nobody gives a shit about the incumbent positions on anything, with the possible exception of their retirement. Get them the hell out of office, and bring in some actual leftists.

        Provided that the person calling for it has the opinions you prefer on guns. And only guns.

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          Provided that the person calling for it has the opinions you prefer on guns. And only guns.

          No, that conclusion does not follow from the facts at hand. There are any number of issues that raise my ire. I’ve railed just as vociferously against Hogg for guns as I have against any number of democratic fossils, for reasons ranging from pro-genocide, to appeasing Republicans, to senility. Gun control is just one of many disqualifying conditions. That he and I share an absolute disgust for Retired-in-Place Democrats is not sufficient to rehabilitate his image. He is an honorary fossil, and needs to go along with them.

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            17 hours ago

            Just seems like whenever there’s someone who is trying to get the party to move to the left, suddenly there’s some criterion for why they shouldn’t.

            Bernie’s too old and that was a problem from 2016 until the second Biden announced. It’s a problem again now that Biden is out of office. AOC is a woman and that’s suddenly a problem because she’s seizing the moment. Hogg doesn’t agree with the NRA on guns.

            There’s always some excuse.

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              14 hours ago

              Just seems like whenever there’s someone who is trying to get the party to move to the left,

              Again, “gun control” is not a leftist issue. Gun control is keeping the party from moving left.

              Further, Hogg isn’t trying to move the party to the left. He openly supports legacy Democrats like Pelosi and Hillary who built the failed party, and he is looking for younger candidates who will keep the party right where theose decrepit fossils planted it.

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                14 hours ago

                Further, Hogg isn’t trying to move the party to the left. He openly supports legacy Democrats like Pelosi and Hillary who built the failed party, and he is looking for younger candidates who will keep the party right where theose decrepit fossils planted it.

                Because you don’t like that he’s not Wayne LaPierre?

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                  13 hours ago

                  No part of my comment history suggests I have ever supported Wayne LaPierre.

                  You and I probably agree on 99% of the issues, but you’re willing to alienate me on the basis of this particular, obviously divisive issue.

                  You are not alone in this. The party has long used gun control as a purity test, rejecting candidates (and alienating voters) who offer anything less than full-throated support for gun control.

                  But that purity test is one of the things that needs to be excised from the party.

                  Gun control does not have the broad support it did in the 90’s. The wave of concealed carry adoption in the late 90’s/ early 2000’s has radically expanded the number and political diversity of gun owners across the country. The party has thus far failed to recognize this shift in the political climate. We can see the results.

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                    13 hours ago

                    You are not alone in this. The party has long used gun control as a purity test, rejecting candidates (and alienating voters) who offer anything less than full-throated support for gun control.

                    Until just now, when centrist control of the party is threatened.