• SugaredScoundrel@sh.itjust.works
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    Private interests do align, but rarely. Meaning you have more chance at opposing narratives forming. Public is monovoiced. Without an opposing voice its data becomes suspect.

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      Private is controlled by large corporations, and often gets state funding. All press has bias. Really, you don’t have anything against the data other than you feel like it could be wrong.

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        I don’t trust it. Correct. I like multiple sources not controlled by one person. I like independent journalism. I think your data is bunk, drummed up, fake propaganda.

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          You don’t even have sources, just ambient cultural anti-communism. When Cowbee tried to present you with new information, you just responded “tldr”.

          You have zero interest in independent journalism, you reject anything that doesn’t agree with you out of hand

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              How convenient for you that anything that doesn’t agree with you is inherently “obvious propaganda” and doesn’t warrant engagement, it certainly it fortune for you that you have created a standard where you can never be wrong and never have to engage with anything that disagrees with you.

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          You have nothing for that but vibes, though. You can go to the sources and debunk them if you wish, but with just vibes, you have nothing.

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            I have done my investigation in communism, into Italian fascism, naziism, the kkk, the interment of Japanese Citizens in the US, the destruction of native American cultures, etc etc. Ive done my research. I know what totalitarians say, because they say the same thing regardless of what ideology they support. “Sure x did bad thing, but also x did good thing!” “We only killed this type of person because they were enemies of the state!”

            Your two powers were bloodthirsty expansionists. Intent on spreading their cultural hegemony across borders. Just as the U.S. exists now and did in the past. Power corrupts. And concentrating it in the hands of the few, in one bureaucracy is disastrous for the majority.

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              Considering your hatred of data and facts, I’ll just repost what I said earlier:

              The portrayal of the Communists and Nazis as “twin evils” exaggerates the sins of the Communists in quantity and quality, while minimizing the sins of the Nazis in quantity and quality, in order to show them as relatively equal problems. In other words, its Nazi apologia, and historical revisionism. Read Blackshirts and Reds.

              The Nazis executed the Communists, Socialists, gay people, trans people, disabled people, Jewish people, Slavic people, and many, many more. It wasn’t simple opposition, it was a racially supremacist ideology.

              The Communists executed Tsarists, fascists, and terrorists to the state. They did not create a systematic industrialized murder machine like the Nazis did in order to keep up with how many people they needed to kill.