If Biden really wanted to help the country and reaffirm any semblance of a rule of law he’d fly himself to the Hague and accept responsibility for the genocide and war crimes he abetted.
Anything short of that is just more self indulgent ego tripping on his part. Buy the ticket, Joe. You either support the rule of law or you dont. At long last, would you please pick one.
Thanks for everything Joe!
Hey at least the one and only time he went low and broke decorum was so he could pardon his own son. And the other 1200 people a week later when he realized how bad the optics were.
And just to get ahead of those people. I’m not necessarily mad he pardoned his son. I’m mad there only time he broke decorum was for his own personal interests and not the American people’s.
That’s what makes me mad, too. That and the genocide.
You should have had him arrested when you still had presidential immunity, Joe.
Technically the SCOTUS gave immunity for official acts only.
Official acts being clearly outlined as up to the sole discretion of…
wait for it…
The SCOTUS.
They said it was to be determined by a lower court. It was sent back to a lower court and Trump was convicted. But the judge ruled that no penalty should be applied because of the SCOTUS ruling on presidential immmunity and it was up to the DOJ to prosecute. The DOJ is under direct presidential control and by then Trump was in power.
SCOTUS could have prosecuted Trump directly, but as always, they deliberately slow walked it so the case would disappear. Which is exactly what they are going to do with all the current cases.
His handlers told him to sit and wait until it was Donnie’s turn to make them money so that’s what he did.
On one hand, he’s not wrong.
On the other hand, he can fuck off. He had internal polling showing him losing in a landslide and he still hung on for far too long afterwards, sabotaging efforts to build a winning campaign by the eventual nominee. Biden is the man who lost the fucking republic through his vanity and hubris.
Biden is the guy that was given the biggest stick in history, and then just meekly handed over to one of the worst bullies in history.
Fuck. Joe. Biden.
Yeah, when the SC hands you unlimited power while a fascist dictator is waiting for his second chance at office… You use that fucking power.
One official act during the debate and you could have prevented all this Joe.
It didn’t even have to be official. He’s old enough he would have died of old age before seeing jail time.
Yeah dude, and I’m sure “he was going to win and build concentration camps within 3 months, I swear!” would totally have been a sufficient explanation for everyone.
People on this site are so fucking dumb, I swear.
He doesn’t need to explain. Whatever he did wouldn’t have been illegal if it was an official act. Also Trump is demonstrably a fucking traitor so he could have used that as justification.
Oh I’m sure the Supreme Court would have smacked that down if it was a Dem.
Well we’re not so sure presidents even have to listen to the supreme court now are we?
We were pretty sure right up until one didn’t.
Trump is dead set on making sure that only one thing can a stop him. No one should be surprised when it happens.
And the American citizens (especially the ones who hate Biden with a passion, and already stormed the Capitol once) would totally be fine with Democrats assassinating political opponents on live television.
For Christ sake, who upvotes this shit???
Please tell me it’s just like one dude with 10 alt accounts…
Doesn’t matter what they’re fine with. Biden had a blank check to deal with them however he saw fit if they tried something. They were at least actually traitors unlike the people Trump is persecuting.
It does matter when you’re on the left, because others on the left will hold you accountable.
You live in a fucking dream world. The fact that you honestly believe that Joe Biden could (and should) have assassinated the cult leader Donald Trump on live television, and life in the US would just continue on like normal, means you’re the stupidest fucking person I’ve ever encountered.
You live in a fucking dream world. The fact that you honestly believe that Joe Biden could (and should) have assassinated the cult leader Donald Trump on live television, and life in the US would just continue on like normal, means you’re the stupidest fucking person I’ve ever encountered.
I never said things would continue on like normal. It would have just escalated the situation into what is currently happening now except with Biden in power instead so we’re not all getting fucked. Better that the abusive tyrant be on your side than the other way around. He can run wild until they get their shit together enough to stop him and put safeguards in place to prevent it from happening again in the future (from either side) but the damage is done to the MAGAs instead of the innocent people Trump is targeting and everyone gets a good life lesson about why this “it’s legal as long as it’s an offical act” thing isn’t a great idea.
I don’t think anyone wants to hear from Biden at this point. He by all accounts did his level best to put his ego ahead of the good of the people of the country which did nothing but help further Trump’s talking points.
I want him out there speaking at events, raising money for the campaign trail. They’re off to a great start, honestly, it’s only April 2025 and they’re consistently making nationwide news.
I voted for Harris, I would have voted for Biden again, and I think anybody who doesn’t see the logic in that is incredibly foolish and just in general a disappointment.
Trump would be out of our lives now and forever if enough people understood what was at stake.
Maybe the people on social security should stop voting for rapists/terrorists/felons/morons…?
Drumpf said he didn’t care about you. He SAID IT. Yet you still voted for him because you’re a stupid PoS. 🤷♀️
Yeah but men wearing skirts makes them feel uncomfortable so killing minorities is sadly more important than a functioning society.
Interesting, so how did they feel when Elon did the “Roman salute”? Romans basically walked around in skirts as well…
Ah well, I think reason left the US long ago.
I’ve been told since it’s not ok the books as a law it’s just words and we should feel and think he doesn’t care about anyone.
Yeah but who are you going to believe?
The guy who said it
Or the guy on Facebook who said he didn’t mean it?
Fuck you, Biden. You got us here. YOU did breathtaking damage to the republic, because you and the rest of the non-fascist politicians were so unforgivably out of touch that you lost the fucking republic. Please die and save us your bloviating idiocy.
Millions of DNC voters who didn’t turn in a ballot got us here.
Two things can be true at the same time.
Yes: the people who were so fucking sick of the status quo that they refused to vote do carry a large share of the blame here.
But the DNC is ABSOLUTELY guilty of perpetuating that caustic status quo in the face of clear public desire for change, because they were mostly too interested in the money machine they were a part of.
And the Democrats being a shitty party, who keep running shitty candidates is why millions of DNC voters didn’t turn in a ballot
The biggest complaints I hear about the DNC as a whole is they don’t do enough, and yeah no shit because Republicans have outnumbered them in the senate since 2013 and we only barely picked majority with caucusing independents.
People are upset with democrats because they are out played at every step of the game.
Take Biden’s approach to student loans. Given unilateral power to abolish and modify student loan debt, they announced it months in advance, giving time for court cases to stall the order. Court cases that were taken to a court they know was stacked against them by the rules broken by previous republicans. So it amounted to nothing. Reinstating debt is tangible harder to do, and given unilateral powers to do so, Biden chose to ignore those and set himself up for failure.
To see where this failure to recognize the political moment we are in leads, he failed to pick someone to imprison Trump for treason after Jan 6.
If you want the democrats to do better, then vote for more of them. Simple as.
Even if you don’t feel represented on a specific issue, the DNC are the party to reverse citizens united, tax the rich, and promote fair and open elections.
Pick DNC now so you can choose somebody better later.
Why didn’t Trump get put in prison after Jan 6? Democrats had the power to do it, why didn’t they?
Trump would have if tens of millions of assholes didn’t reelect him.
Why would I want to encourage the Democrats shitty behaviour? Voting for more of them tells them “yes, I want you to keep backing down on everything you promsed”, which I don’t want.
Even if you don’t feel represented on a specific issue, the DNC are the party to reverse citizens united, tax the rich, and promote fair and open elections.
No, those are the things they talk about doing, but as soon as they have the power, suddenly they are too busy focusing on perpetuating wars, bailing out their rich friends, and fighting against fair elections to get any of those things done
They literally already took money out of politics from 2003 to 2010. That’s what Citizens United means, it’s the court case that put money back in politics. Every DNC politician talks about overturning it but they need a SCOTUS majority or 60 Senators to do it. DNC would be taxing the rich right now as the GOP tax plan expires next year, but stupid assholes let a GOP majority in to write the new one just like they did in 2017. If you really don’t think the DNC expands ballot access and promotes fair districting, then clearly you haven’t been watching anything going on around you.
The DNC haven’t had 60 senators since 1979. Try it first, then tell me it doesn’t work.
If that’s the biggest complaint you hear, then I feel like you should broaden your reading list.
How about:
- Backing a genocide
- Backing a rapist who bombed children as a presidental candidate
- Telling people the economy is actually really good, when it clearly isn’t
- Supporting campaigns like Trump’s
- Pretending to care about things like health care, student debt, foreign wars, the housing crisis, then getting into office (with a majority), and doing jack-shit about them. Sometimes even exacerbating them
Those are all just to start
The single state solution that the current admin supports is Genocide. Before that we had a confused old man withholding purchased weapons, building a pier to distribute aid, and swearing over the phone about the consequences of attacking Rafah. Anybody who advocates against the DNC because of Israel-Palestine conflict is beyond disingenuous, you should move that to the bottom of your list to at least have some semblance of credibility.
The DNC were surprised by the Trump candidacy and you say otherwise twice on your list.
Biden was good for the economy with workers rights, wages, and public investment all increasing dramatically.
Everything else you mentioned they try constantly but can’t do much without 60 in the senate.
The single state solution that the current admin supports is Genocide.
Yeah, I never said otherwise. I’m not sure what you mean by this, can you explain?
Before that we had a confused old man withholding purchased weapons, building a pier to distribute aid, and swearing over the phone about the consequences of attacking Rafah.
You mean the child-killing, rapist and genocidist? Yeah, I saw him make a token effort with the bridge, that didn’t really help. I saw him make a few red-lines that were crossed, and his response was to send a buch more weapons to help out with the genocide.
Anybody who advocates against the DNC because of Israel-Palestine conflict is beyond disingenuous, you should move that to the bottom of your list to at least have some semblance of credibility.
I don’t see how this follows. I can be against the DNC supporting a genocide, while also being against Trump for supporting a genocide. In fact, it’s pretty easy to just universally be against genocide, no matter who is backing it.
The DNC were surprised by the Trump candidacy and you say otherwise twice on your list.
I never said they weren’t supprised by it, I said they supported it, which they did. Clinton pushed for Trump because she thought it would be an easy win.
Biden was good for the economy with workers rights, wages, and public investment all increasing dramatically.
No he wasn’t. He was good with making his rich friends richer, but housing, wages, education, medical-care, got worse. His economy was only good if you focus on the rich and ignored the working class and poor. He also shot-down the rail-workers strike when an actual pro-union president would have supported it.
Everything else you mentioned they try constantly but can’t do much without 60 in the senate.
The Dems always say that they can’t do anything, even with a majority, because the Republicans will block them. But once the Republicans have a majority, the Dems sure can’t seem to block them back. So which is it? Does having a majority allow you to do what you want? or can you still be blocked? It’s almost like politicians are liars, who are willing to sucker people in for votes, then toss them aside whenever it’s convenient
Yeah, I never said otherwise. I’m not sure what you mean by this, can you explain?
The Biden Admin was not a single state advocate.
The Dems always say that they can’t do anything, even with a majority, because the Republicans will block them. But once the Republicans have a majority, the Dems sure can’t seem to block them back. So which is it?
The only noteworthy bill in recent memory was the budget bill which can be filibustered but doing so is purely symbolic as budget bills qualify for passing via house reconciliation. On top of that, I already mentioned even when caucusing independents and VP 50:50 tiebreaker let DNC pick majority leader they have been outnumbered in the senate for over a decade and counting. Are you referring to some other bill? Or are you just disingenuous full of shit?
Which was completely stupid in hindsight, wasn’t it?
Running shitty candidates and bad policy? yeah, that was indeed stupid
LOL, tell me you don’t understand how math & a two party FPtP electoral system works without telling me you don’t understand how math and a two party FPtP electoral system works.
I understand how it works perfectly. Parties that fight against war, genocide, and the rich don’t get elected because the two parties keep them off the ballot.
It’s always amazing to me that people blame the voters for the state of things, instead of blaming the people with the money, the power, and the platform, who explicitly went against what the voters said they wanted.
I do blame the people that decided to not vote, regardless of whatever silly reason they tell themselves to rationalize it. Choosing to do nothing is a choice & that choice elected a fascist.
Voting is a chess move not a love letter.
But you certainly don’t understand that.
No shit. Fuck off joe, you didn’t do shit to stop it,
Couldn’t have done it without you, Joe.
Joe had nothing to do with it lol. There was always a “not Trump” option.
The supreme court made him a king. He had every right and ability to prevent ALL OF THIS, and he just whined his way out of office.
An option so terrible that being not Trump was not enough to get it to the White House.
How was Harris a terrible option?
Or was it because she is a woman, and because of her color?USA got what they deserved.
Yes Biden was maybe mediocre, but how does that justify not preventing a flaming fascist sociopath from taking the office? It wasn’t Biden that elected Trump, it was the Americans.
Blaming Biden for it is idiotic.She was offering 50k tax breaks to small business and 20k down payments for first time home buyers, great on paper. But 70% of Americans work paycheck to paycheck, so they can’t utilize that. And her healthcare for all became healthcare for some became expanding the ACA. So no help for the majority of people.
And when asked if she’d change anything, she declined. But then suddenly changed her mind and said she’d add a Republican to the cabinet. Further alienating the 70% of people that work paycheck to paycheck and anyone who understand what Republicans are. Can’t forget parading around with good ol Liz too. Really winning with that one.
When asked the simple question of “Should trans people exist?” Her answer was they should follow the law. Disgusting. Unwilling to acknowledge sometimes right to exist in hopes of courting centrists. Instead pushing away both sides.
Her and Biden continued the genocide despite loud outcry from progressives. If progressives are such a tiny a faction that they aren’t worth catering to with policy, then you can’t be mad when you didn’t get their vote. And if you think it’s their fault the Dems lost then you should still be mad at the Dems for alienating them.
Honestly I agree with you that the US got what it deserved. But not because of its vote, rather because what we’ve become. Your options are continuing the status quo (ya know that one with 70% of people being pay check to pay check) or fascism. There was no right choice for most people. And I find it funny how privileged libs are to think there was.
Sigh. Gaza genocide? Immigration, including the border wall? Most lethal army in the world? The total lack of commitment to a serious social welfare plan (by election day her promises were all either completely ignored or watered down beyond recognition)? Her disdain for all her voters left of Reagan and especially the massive anti-war faction? Including Republicans in her cabinet? "Nothing comes to mind? I try not to be rude in these interactions, but you should think before you say these things. Harris 2024 was going to accomplish nothing except be an appetizer for Trump 2028, because she had nothing to offer to the people who were hurting and looking for anything resembling help.
but how does that justify not preventing a flaming fascist sociopath from taking the office?
Who do you want to justify their actions to you? It doesn’t matter whether it’s justified for not; it happened, it was always going to happen and whenever someone tried to prevent it people like you would scream “but fascism” not realizing they’re only helping the fascists.
Sigh. Gaza genocide?
For fucks sake! How is that better with Trump? Trump doesn’t give a shit, and doesn’t even criticize Israel for that. It’s the most moronic argument there is, yet it’s still pushed?!
It doesn’t matter whether it’s justified for not
You need to justify it to yourself, that’s the point. Why would you think they are responsible to anybody else for their vote?
Democratic flavored genocide wasn’t enough for the Lemmy progressives so they aggressively campaigned for Trump to really ramp things up.
For fucks sake! How is that better with Trump?
Point me to where I said it was.
You need to justify it to yourself, that’s the point.
Why? i never told anyone to vote for Trump.
The place where you use it as an argument for not voting for Harris.
immigration
Imagine saying this with a straight face after the events of the past 3 months. Unreal.
What about the past three months makes Harris adopting the border wall position anything short of complete and utter stupidity?
lol 🤡
If he got an AG that would have actually dropped some cases on Trump this whole situation would have been avoided and justice would have been served.
Joe could have lit a fire under his AG’s ass and gotten this fuck in jail before he could win the election.
Biden is the only person to defeat the Orange Turd so don’t go to rough on him.
I’m just gonna say it. The only reason Biden won was because Trumps response to covid was so abysmal that people were genuinely spooked. Had covid not happened I think Biden would’ve lost. Part of me also thinks we’d be in a better spot rn had Trump won in 2020 since the right wouldn’t have had four years to consolidate and get more extreme.
Yeah I agree. It would have been 4 years of BS, but nothing like this. He had 4 years to plan. We would be enjoying a democrat as president today.
Biden is also the only person to fail to ensure a coup-leading traitor got prosecuted and thus presided over the fall of US democracy. I’ll go as rough on him as I can for that, thank you very much!
Hear fucking hear!
So hilarious to come to this discussion a few days later and see every post about this particular failing goes unanswered. Even the ride or die Biden people that seem to still want to die on his hill can’t really handle the how much he fumbled it.
He BARELY scraped a victory against the most unpopular incumbent since Ford pardoned Nixon, if not ever. He won the popular vote by a smaller percentage than Hillary did when she lost the EC.
He ABSOLUTELY does not deserve credit for barely passing the lowest possible bar and then digging a hole under it for Harris to fall into.
It’s quite literally Biden & Garland’s fault that Trump is not currently in prison.
No shit, Joe! Your insistence on holding into power when it was clear that’s not what the people wanted enabled this. Your legacy will forever be tarnished by your inability to accept reality before it was too late.
Nonetheless, the problem lies in the system. If 1/3 is for, 1/3 is against, and 1/3 don’t vote, there’s something wrong. And there is, and a specific party has been doing voter supression for a decade and more. Why has this been allowed?
Whatever dude. Biden can go lick a light socket for all I care. He knew this shit would happen and did absolutely nothing about it for 4 years then when it came time to let Kamala run he fucked her over on his way out and condemned us to this.
Enjoy your Alzheimer’s genocide Joe.
Still? Fucking really? Supporting Palestine is now fucking thought crime, and you’re still saying genocide Joe not genocide Donny? Gtfo.
Trump being worse doesn’t mean Biden didn’t back a genocide. He deserves all the hate and more for being such a monster
Centrists: “WHERE IS BIDEN!? WHY ISN’T HE DOING ANYTHING!?”
Biden: *actively working with DNC on fundraising, speaks at an event which makes headlines
Centrists: “GO AWAY YOU OLD BASTARD!!!``11~!”
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