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    10 months ago

    The problem isn’t that bikes and buses aren’t manufactured. The problem is that infrastructure is based around cars. Cities aren’t “walking cities” or accessible. Roads and the building plan for everything screams “fuck people without cars”. So people have no choice but to get cars.

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      10 months ago

      This right here. Though my city has buses it’s inconvenient to all other traffic how they are structured. Literally having to go across 3 lanes to turn left within 100 feet of a 6 lane intersection from a stop on the side of the road in the right hand lane. I love my city. /S

      Where are the sidewalks? Every other but maybe third but also forth occasionally house maybe? Fuck you walk in the street.

      Btw why is every man hole in the way of a tire. City planning… Not here.

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      I’m absolutely terrified of crossing any road bigger than two lanes because of that. Whenever I would take a walk I would refuse to go to the neighborhood across the main street and would just stick to my own neighborhood. Even with a bike I don’t trust other drivers to give me the time to cross, I have no idea how people do it

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    Pretty sure there are no Americans in these communities. Unfortunately our entire country has been designed for cars and you would almost have to start from the ground up to make it work here. I’ve never had a job that wasn’t many many miles away from home with zero public transit options that run close to home or work. Most places I want to go outside of work is the same situation.

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    10 months ago

    I love public transport. I agree we should have more funding for it.

    But the thing with cars is that the biggest cost is given to the one using it. (Buying, maintaining and fueling a car)

    The infrastructure cost is quite low compared to the same amount of people using public transport.

    It is kind of like building and maintaining train lines, without having to buy, maintain and power the trains riding on it.

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      10 months ago

      The overall cost on society still comes out better. In fact, cheaper, especially in the long run.

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      But the thing with cars is that the biggest cost is given to the one using it. (Buying, maintaining and fueling a car)

      About $12,000 per year per car.

      The public bill is about $14,000 per household, or $9,000 per person. Regardless if they do, or can, drive

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      The infrastructure cost is quite low compared to the same amount of people using public transport.

      France’s TGV costs €65,000 per km/year to maintain. That’s ~$43.5/mi/yr.

      Obviously roads have a lot of variables, but for a network wide cost, the US Interstate costs $28,020 per mile per year.

      The TVG has 35.7 million passenger km per year (~22.3 mi). And total infra maintenance is €32.5 millon (without rolling stock). So €0.91/km. With all non-cap costs it’s €3.47/km

      I’m not sure how many passengers miles travelled / total miles the US Interstate has, but I’d wager it works out to less than TVG operating costs. Non cap costs here would include all the personal vehicles, their gas, and driver time cost.

      I don’t accept your assumption without better data.