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    It is incredibly unlikely that the republicans pull passports. They are very much dependent on people to be placated and insist “it is just temporary and I am going to live my life”. Passports are owned/used by predominantly upper middle class families who are the most likely to try to ignore the republicans while bitching and moaning that somebody is being rude and protesting in front of a Starbucks. Take away their passports and now this impacts them rather than just “trump, biden, whatever. Groceries are still expensive and I am just going to live my life and go on vacation to Italy this year”.

    Historically? Yes, fascist regimes do that. That is also incredibly ineffective. We are more likely to see the China/Russia model where political crimes become increasingly prevalent (see: attacking a tesla is terrorism). The other reason to pull passports is for draft purposes. And the US Military, for as massive as it is, is not one that can be run by drafted soldiers. But republicans are also fucking idiots so… we’ll see.

    So… if you can get out, get the hell out.

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      Don’t need to pull passports when ICE can just pretend anyone they pick up doesn’t have one.

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      Naturalized citizens and trans people are definitely at the point of concern about passports being revoked

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      “it’s never going to happen” until it happens

      How many “it’s incredibly unlikely the republicans do this” are we past now? Because it sure as hell is a ton

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        The “why” is important to understand.

        “It won’t happen because it is illegal” or “it won’t happen because the military will save us” is patently stupid and an indicator that people aren’t paying attention.

        “It probably won’t happen because it undermines their goals and the countries trump et al worships don’t do it” is actually assessing where their control comes from.

        The danger with assuming everything bad will happen because it is bad is that you just give people “lines” that are easily avoided. Or quick ways to say “Oh, it isn’t THAT bad. They aren’t ACTUALLY setting babies on fire”

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          Are you willing to take that risk?

          Because I wouldn’t

          Though, hell, it’d already be too late for me, as I’m trans. Thankfully I don’t live in the US

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            The republicans are actively trying to erase and eradicate trans people. And, at the best of times, the democrats don’t care enough to fight. One of the most important things to understand is that your political party/affiliation probably doesn’t give a shit about you (a sadly not uniquely Asian American experience)

            But there are countless “concessions” and horrors coming everyone’s way. So why fixate on something that is unlikely to happen and which all evidence points against? Even the attack on trans people was more about dead naming and causing emotional pain but the upper middle class (and above) trans folk were able to get revised passports pretty quick.

            Because hurting trans folk? That is just ratings. Restricting the upper middle class? THAT is how you get people in the streets AND piss off news networks enough that they show it. Because that news anchor who is just keeping his head down? He has a vacation coming up.

            Which is why:

            So… if you can get out, get the hell out.