• tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      What atrocities have mainstream Buddhists participated in? I know there have been Buddhist terror groups but it really doesn’t seem like the norm. Aggressive and greedy people use religion as a tool, some religions are more likely to engage in violence than others though.

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        In ancient China, Buddhist organizations also had a history of annexing land, oppressing people, and competing with secular governments.

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        Buddhism has extremely good PR, but ultimately it is just that: PR. You can find messages of peace, compassion, and violence in plenty of religions to higher or lesser degrees, but as soon as they become large enough to be politically relevant, one leader or another will resort to violence sooner or later, and will take advantage of their followers’ faith to justify it.

        As for Buddhism specifically, this is a good start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence#Regional_examples

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          6 days ago

          someone old commented somewhere that the monks took over the place and made them built temples for free and control the people, have political control and raise funds to make more temples and spread

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    1 year ago

    If you think Radical Islam is alone I’d like to introduce you to Ireland and India. Both countries proving that radicalism transcends race and culture.

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    If you don’t think radical atheism isn’t like radical Christianity and radical Islam, you haven’t studied the history of the various communist countries of the world.

    People who are absolutely certain they are right can do some fucked up shit.

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      Whatever belief or non belief anyone has isn’t the problem … it’s when those individuals want to impose this beliefs or non beliefs onto other people whether those other people want it or not.

      I really don’t care what other people think, that’s their life. The problems start when people start thinking that they have a right to force their ideas or thoughts onto other people.

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        1 year ago

        Add up the populations of the countries where atheism is imposed on people.

        More people have had atheism imposed upon them than any religion.

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          Add up all the people that have lived over the past 4,000 years … wars, genocides, conflicts, violent revolutions have all led to countless dead because of religions.

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            You might be surprised to learn that the world population hasn’t historically been as high is it is in modern times for more most of those 4000 years.

            So I got at least a couple of billion people having their beliefs oppressed by atheists. You can now go through the exercise of going over historical documents and adding up the number of people that have been oppressed by religions throughout history, and let me know when you reach 2 billion and I’ll start doing a more accurate accounting of the number of people oppressed by atheists. Because when you consider the populations of the Soviet Union and China and there being multiple generations living under atheist rule, It’s likely the number is significantly higher than 2 billion. But I doubt you can get to that very conservative estimate by looking through all of history.

            Sorry to be the one to break this to you, but atheists have been the absolute worst people to have held power in all of history. The facts just don’t line up with what you believe.

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              I’m counting the dead not the oppressed … atheists haven’t been around long enough to rack up the same murderous numbers of death and destruction as theists have over the past few thousand years.

              The Soviets and communist Chinese (both systems I disagree with and do not support) never launched full fledged pogroms, death camps or extermination programs of killing in order to get rid of religious groups … they oppressed and abused religious groups and maybe even killed often … but never to the level of industrial killing … the Nazis did that and even though Nazis may be identified as atheists, they had a political / ideological belief system that was more identifiable as a religion than a lack of belief

              The only system in history that has any blood thirst for killing opponents has been and still is religious based.

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      Do you mean anti-theism? If you’re talking about people that actively oppose religion. Atheism is simply a lack of belief in theism.

      I’m also not sure how communism relates either, unless you’re talking about secular societies that were communist and committed atrocities, such as Soviet Russia under Stalin. In Soviet Russia the state belief was atheism, but again, in their pursuit to eliminate religion I would argue that is really anti-theism.

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        I can agree with everything you said here, but read most of the posts and comments in atheist communities and tell me most of them aren’t at least somewhat anti-theist.

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          there won’t be any atheist page, if they don’t talk about religion lol.