• MasterOBee Master/King@lemmy.world
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    He says we have a bunch of people starving, and we have programs to help, but instead of helping, he sees the programs being abused.

    Do you not think these programs are being abused? Have you been to the south where poverty and obesity are at insane rates?

    Also, it’s hilarious how he can touch on 20 issues that every one of us agree with, but the left hyper-focuses on one line they don’t like, because he just looks like a hillbilly trump supporter to y’all.

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      “Also, it’s hilarious how he can touch on 20 issues that every one of us agree with, but the left hyper-focuses on one line they don’t like, because he just looks like a hillbilly trump supporter to y’all.”

      That’s sorta the problem of right wing populism dude. Yeah, many of the issues pointed out in the song are legitimate and need to be addressed but how he tacks on “welfare queens” is trying to shift the blame onto people have nothing to do with your own hardships. That family getting $400 a month in food stamps is not the reason everything sucks right now.

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        “welfare queens”

        Where are you quoting this from? You aren’t quoting it from the song, because he didn’t say it. It’s you quoting some left wing talking point.

        Look at the lines, he says there are people dying of starvation, because the welfare we’re supposed to receive is being misallocated. Have you ever been to the rural south?

        That family getting $400 a month in food stamps is not the reason everything sucks right now.

        Yeah, we all know that. And he didn’t blame them.

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          “Lord, we got folks in the street, ain’t got nothin’ to eat And the obese milkin’ welfare”

          Misremembered the line but regardless, still sure sounds like he’s blaming them.

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            The song title is ‘Rich men north of Richland’ - it’s about how the politicians are fucking up America - both inner city and rural America.

            That is the underlying theme for the song, so him saying people are starving while there are some milking the system doesn’t make sense. Increase welfare, or fix it, help those that need it.

            Trust me, I really really wish he didn’t have that line, because he talks about so many bigger issues that the left agrees with, but now they can just discredit this redneck hillbilly as being an alt right industry plant. But i feel even if that line wasn’t in the song, that y’all would bitch about him calling out epstein and just say he’s a Qanon freak.

            • Yeah but that’s stupid. The people who talk like this guy and the people who relate to the song constantly vote against their own interests. Got people living in trailer parks wanting to cut taxes on billionaires.

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      I listened to his song before I knew anything about him, and I was into it until that point, but yeah, when you make a song about rich people exploiting you, but then spend half the song talking about the much less impactful issue of poor people wasting their government-issued money on junk food, your message stops being effective.

      It’s like stubbing your toe and breaking your arm at the same time, and complaining just as much about both.

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        but then spend half the song

        Once again, hyperfocusing on one line is not ‘half the song’ and when you put it in context, he’s simply saying that those people that need welfare aren’t getting it, while others are abusing the system. It’s not just about making laws to help poor people, it’s about ensuring that it gets to the people that need it.

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          He is redirecting anger that rightfully should be aimed at the overclass to the underclass. The underclass is not causing his problems. It is the overclass.

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          Education folks… education. Prime example here why it is so, so important to be able to think critically.

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      Have you taken the time to look into why there’s such an obesity problem? It sure seems like the singer hasn’t, otherwise he wouldn’t be denigrating poor people for being obese.

      EBT doesn’t pay much and the cheaper foods are chock full of terrible ingredients that tend to lead to obesity. It’s not easy to afford good fruit, vegetables, grains, etc when you’ve got a small amount of money that has to stretch a lot.

      If it weren’t for the myth of the welfare queen we might be in a better place to provide for people in need. And there will ALWAYS be people in need in a capitalist society. It’s how it works.

      Honestly, a bit of empathy and understanding would go a long ways for people so upset about people on welfare.

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      I can’t even see you but I can tell you look like a “hillbilly trump supporter” too.