• Sunflier@lemmy.world
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    AND STILL PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE EVERYTHING IS NORMAL!

    Nope, we’rs not. But I, like many people, am in a marginalized/bum-fuck town. So, my opinion doesn’t matter until the polls open. We voted against this evil, and we will again. But, our government wants to embrace the evil.

    We can see it wants to. We don’t want it to. But, most of us don’t matter to the government. We’re not big-dollar donors, so our politicians will ignore us. They’ve minimalized most people so all that we can do is vote against it.

    But, with where the Overton window is, we have one party running with regular evil while the other suggests a diet version of evil.

    I AT LEAST WANT THIS SHIT TAKEN SERIOUSLY ENOUGH THAT CANADIANS STOP FUCKING GOING TO THE STATES

    With how dried up tourism is, it would seem like they’re already doing it. Yet, the government is still going down this path. So, it’s not that big of an impact.

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      The reason I want Canadians to stop going to the states isn’t to help the states, it’s to protect Canadians. But I would also like to help the states if I knew how

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      You say that, but the US is full of people still just going about their business. The country is operating fairly normally, all things considered, and the best you’ve got are sanctioned protests that are great for showing that people don’t love the situation but aren’t actually doing anything that couldn’t be responded to with an AI video of king Trump shit bombing everyone. Oh, and a Californian conservative who makes memes mocking Trump but is himself pretty shit.

      Maybe for a nation of cowards this is action, but really it’s just sad. You’re taking it lying down, and half of you are even fighting to make sure that ya’ll get completely fucked.

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        personally, I’m trans and I’m just trying to survive while I build an exit plan. damn right I’m laying down - I’m laying low.

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          Right?

          Like, the best thing a member of a loathed and marginalized community can do is to have an escape plan. They’re foaming at the mouth with rage and drooling at the opportunity for a hated group to put up an ounce of resistance so they can round them up for the camps. What kind of opposition can one transgender person in a one bedroom at night put up against an armed SWAT team?

          It’ll be someone else’s job to resist with an organized force. The trick isn’t surviving long enough to be rescued from Auschwitz. The trick is knowing when and how to get away before Auschwitz becomes a thing.

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        I want America to revolt too, at the same time it’s a bit much to ask considering people will die if it happens. Really, my anger and frustration is more directed at congress and the Supreme Court, the people who are supposed to be responsible for protecting America from this sort of thing.

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          They don’t need to start shooting, but they do need to take it seriously. For fuck’s sake not every problem needs to be solved by violence but every problem does need to be solved by people giving a shit at least. Meanwhile there are still hordes of people in the US just pretending like nothing is all that wrong.

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            Agreed but I’m not sure what normal citizens can do. They can vote in the midterms but I fear Trump will rig that. Short of violence, I guess a general strike is the best option.

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              At this point I’d literally take just seeing more people actually caring and fewer people “not being political”. Caring about politics is not a niche interest. You don’t have to be an expert but the lack of comprehension around the subject all over the world, especially in places like the US and Canada where information is so easy to find, is fucking insane to me.

              It would be sick if we could throw out the idea that this isn’t fucking Star Wars and we don’t need to take Conservatives seriously as the only other option outside of the centrists to get some kind of light-side/dark-side balance.

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                I agree, it frustrates me to no end that people think politics is something that is okay to just not be interested in, like movies or video games. Lack of interest in politics is how America git into this situation. How do people not understand that people’s rights and freedoms are taken away because of “politics”? How are there still people in America oblivious that they’re living in a fascist dictatorship?

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                  I remember one guy telling a story where someone he met was saying that, well into Harris’ campaign, they really hoped the country got togehter and voted against Biden. As in, to be abundantly clear, they didn’t know that Biden hadn’t been on the ballot for months but they did have a very strong feeling about the him getting elected.

                  Here in Montréal we elected a mayor and party that are full of scandals and who ride developper dick during a housing crisis. 63% of the city rents but only 36% of the city showed up to vote and most of them voted for the cartoonishly bad party and a shocking amount voted for the “more parking garages downtown” party. It was, frankly, embarrassing as hell.

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        but the US is full of people still just going about their business.

        Because we aren’t important enough for politicians to pay attention to. Our calls just go straight into an answering machine that gets ignored because we’re not big-dollar donors like Musk. Musk probably has a direct line.

        the best you’ve got are sanctioned protests that are great for showing that people don’t love the situation but aren’t actually doing anything that couldn’t be responded to with an AI video of king Trump shit bombing everyone.

        Yeah. We are in poverty. We have had stagnant wages for like 40 years, but rampent inflation. This is the second gilded age like it was in the 20s and earlier. The rich have everything and direct lines to politicians, and the poor need 3 gig jobs and a regular job just to afford rent and food. In a work heap like this, we need foreknowledge to schedule our protests around. We can’t afford the privilege of just taking off and protesting.

        Maybe for a nation of cowards this is action, but really it’s just sad. You’re taking it lying down, and half of you are even fighting to make sure that ya’ll get completely fucked.

        Again, you’re conflating poverty and desperation in a backdrop of political corruption as aquiesence.

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          Sure, but why do so many people in the US jot even seem to be aware of what’s happening? Why are things still happening like this is just a rainy day and not a biblical flood?

          I’m not going to ask for violence specifically but from the outside looking in it’s like most of the country doesn’t even know that anything particularly bad is happening.