“Democracy sustains capitalism. Capitalism thrives in a democracy. And, right now, we are dealing with, as I called him at my speech on the Ellipse, a tyrant,” she said, referencing her rally last year on the White House Ellipse in Washington. “We used to compare the strength of our democracy to communist dictators. That’s what we’re dealing with right now in Donald Trump. And these titans of industry are not speaking up,”

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    I guess what @[email protected] is trying to point at is that worker’s don’t truly control the government and so when the current government seizes the means of production it’s closer to a change of hands between different groups of capitalists than anything envisioned by communists.

    I’d also like to say that although the government has “seized” 10% of Intel shares for example it has no control over Intel’s decisions. Those shares only provide dividends.

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      THIS ISNT REAL COMMUNISMM REEEEEEEE

      -no shit Sherlock we know it’s not an imaginary classless utopia because I’m still poor

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          I’m sure if you guys circle jerk enough of upvotes, maybe you can defeat the authoritarians who are literally openly planning to throw you in a wood chipper.

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      Question was the history of the USSR what you envisioned as communism because that’s what we’re comparing this to? You understand no one’s thinking about your belief in what communism is right? We are using the term communist to refer to the USSR related propaganda we enjoyed as children. No one cares what your vision of communism looks like and how it compares to the Trump administration ffs. How many of you are going to embarrass yourself stating this strange sentiment

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        I guess politics is a touchy topic for some.

        I don’t know why you are insinuating I’m:

        1. Agreeing with the original commenter (OC)
        2. Communist

        I was just attempting to clear up what OC was getting at, no need to get all worked up over it.

        To answer your questions.

        1. The USSR never achieved what I understand to be communism
        2. I understand it’s uncommon to actually comprehend what political terms mean, heck I struggle quite a bit, but that’s why all who read the definitions must, as politely as possible, spread to others what they learnt. In this case what Harris should have said is a dictator period, at most a capitalist one.

        Feel free to point out anything I might have gotten wrong, cheers

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          No that’s totally fair, especially the part about being hard to define. Even Marx struggled with at. USA clearly defined it by its propaganda. Kamala is calling upon that definition. Apologies if I misread your post or your intent

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            Yeah, I totally get why she said it, just don’t think it’s a good idea to invite red scare tactics into the 21st century.

            Btw your civil reply to my comment truly made my day, hope in humanity slightly raised

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              Look at it this way, she is not inviting it, she is repurposing it. The Republican Party has done a lot of legwork to fearmonger their voters with that term. It is an incredibly powerful and accessible label with the target audience. It’s not like she’s building a new Red scare with this comment, it it’s already here and if you don’t take control of the narrative and the label, the Nazis are going to run circles around us