Defence agency says Moscow is using the protests in Stockholm to stir tensions between Arab countries and the west

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    1 year ago

    You have no fucking idea what that terms means. Whataboutism is when you say “Johnny stole a cookie” and I use whataboutism to say “But you killed the dog 3 years ago.” Whataboutism is not when you say “Johnny stole a cookie” and I say “But you invaded and occupied the bakery, killed the original owners, steal the ingredients to make your cookies, and issue predatory loans to hungry people so they can buy your cookies at price gouging prices.”

    It is not whataboutism to call out hypocrisy. It takes a special form of brain rot to not see this.

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        1 year ago

        No argument was actually made. I was the one making the argument, which was that Russia’s meddling is smaller and less damaging than Western meddling.

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          Your response was to how “Russia meddles” as you put it yourself. And instead of making an argument, you say “so did the West”.

          Which is whataboutism, ad hominem and a red herring.

          You never put forward an actual argument in your comment starting with “Any Western reporting” Which I referred to earlier.

          I find it very hard to understand how you believe you are actually making a point here?

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              The problem is with the argument made by the article, which is that we should care about Russian meddling and we should act, or support actions, to stop it.

              So, by your logic no one should care about anything any country does or does not do and global politics should become a mind your own business type affair?

              I would also guess that you might just try and argue about how some meddling (ie russian) is fine though, somehow.

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                1 year ago

                Hey, look at the guy making slippery slope arguments! It’s like he doesn’t actually know what fallacies are! No, fuckhead. The argument is that if meddling is a problem, fucking shutdown the West before you start worrying about the rest of the world. The West does 10x the meddling for 10x the death toll and 100x the extraction. Don’t focus on bit players. Worse, don’t focus on the enemies of the big bad, because then you’re just helping create the conditions for the things you claim to be against in the first place.