How much overlap is there?
Because I’d bet the same type of asshole that listens to assholes like shapiro, peterson, etc, also listens to rogan.Most of the ones labeled “left” here are pushing center right talking points at best.
The actual leftist online sources, like African Stream, are straight up banned from the platforms. The right wing sources dominate because they don’t challenge corporate interests, and are not subject to censorship.
Wonder if there’s a way to detract people who follow multiple tho.
The right has more bots
This is me. I get my news from lemmy, a dude in New zeeland, and a gardener in Oregon.
Sometimes a lady in Florida that owns a shed.
That’s New Zealand, or Aotearoa if you prefer.
Lying is easy and takes less time. Real news requires going places, interviewing people, fact checking, and presenting it in a professional manner.
It’s no wonder the right wing media ecosystem is bigger.
Man it’s fucking wild seeing the US become split over political sides like they are sports teams.
Lying is easy and takes less time.
A lot of these shows go hand-in-glove with traditional media. The police-blotter style coverage of local news, wherein a handful of old white people bemoan the latest string of young black man violent crimes gets picked up and fed into the Podcast Racism Engine and spat out as the show’s Two-Minute Hate of the day.
Then you have a congo-line of ex-military blowhards telling you how they got rich trading in their service pensions for crypto futures. You have the usual suspects lineup of incel sex pests complaining that America’s Newest Supermodel isn’t hot enough or isn’t Trad Enough, in between reading sponsor copy for whatever PR company paid them to say said Supermodel’s name twenty times in a given episode. You have interviews with C-list politicians who come on the show to cry about how you can’t say the N-word anymore, on account of the Woke. You have middling athletes at the end of their careers complain about how Transgender high schoolers are ruining the sport. You have middling songwriters at the end of their careers complain about how they pay too much in taxes and hate all three of their ex-wives. You have middling screenwriters demo a pilot episode of a cartoon series about Real Americans forced to use pronouns at gunpoint, then point you to the conservative version of Kickstarter with the promise of a full series that’ll never get produced once they have your money. And holy shit will you get an earful about Jesus.
All this takes a bunch of time and networking and tons of money to grease the wheels. Charlie Kirk ain’t doing this shit for free. But it’s stacked up like any classic MLM, with the kingpins racking in disproportionately more than any of their minions or guests.
It’s short-sighted to say these operations are just faster than traditional journalism, though. Lots of the names on that board have been bouncing around for decades. This is a long term, heavily financed, hugely lucrative propaganda machine. It dates back to the Nixon Era (arguably earlier) and quite a few folks have gone to their graves helping to build it.
Since there’s no colour legend, I was really confused by this since blue means conservative and red means liberal in Canada.
UK is the same colour scheme as Canada, only red is labour (party of the working man).
TYT is left? Excuse the fuck out of me? Lmfao last I heard TYT was russia funded
Them deciding to name themselves after the party that committed the Armenian genocide, the event according to which the term was defined, is especially heinous. It’s like calling a show NSDAP live.
I haven’t even heard of TYT in years. Somehow they still have 12m viewers? Do people listen to them to fall asleep or something lol
They showed up on my feed when I got real into police accountability/1st amendment audits on YT. They used to do some coverage of really outrageous police interactions, but they’ve been swinging hard at turning the argument from “accountability” to “don’t resist”. Not my cup of mud
I cannot imagine a sane moment in my life were I’d be completely OK listening to Russell Brand’s dog shit commentary for over an hour.
Seeing TYT “left-leaning” saddens me. If they were left-leaning, they are not anymore.
I must be missing something. I have been watching TYT recently after being impressed with Cenk’s arguments in his appearance on Jubilee. Regarding American politics, he is certainly left. Maybe people on Lemmy think otherwise because we have so many literal Communists, but in their videos they take every opportunity to rant against the “donor class” while criticising Republicans for obvious reasons and Democrats for being pro-Israel, their election shenanigans, or for generally not being radical enough.
The only politicians I’ve seen get much praise when I watch are Bernie and Zohran Mamdani, so that’s about where I would put them. If you don’t consider Social Democrats / Democratic Socialists to be left, I am curious where you think the centrist “origin point” of the political compass should be. I would think their policies would be left of the governments of almost any country on Earth.
I think you may indeed miss something. It’s not the “people on Lemmy”. A few YouTubers on the left have noticed and made videos about TYT’s downfall. They now have ex employees like Hasan Piker and Francesca Fiorentini openly talking about how people are treated at TYT.
There’s also the whole thing about Ana getting “agitated” about some non-issues like “birth giving person” or some bullshit like that, and saying that she is done with the Democrats.
Another point that comes up often about them is how much they are willing to be friends with people of the right. They go on right wing shows to criticize the left. They also attack other YouTubers on the left like The Majority Report.
Beyond their sometimes seemingly balanced speeches, they are rapidly shifting on the right. They are becoming grifters.
I don’t want to link to a bunch of AI articles and/or long YouTube videos but this contains a bit of juice: https://novapsyche.substack.com/p/the-young-turks-daniel-penny-and
I actually have to thank TYT for turning me to the left. If it wasn’t for their constant retreat into smug milquetoast centrism when presented with “radical” solutions to help the poor and oppressed their rich asses pantomimed giving a shit about, I never would have realized I was an anarchist.
I will never understand how anyone can listen to Theo Von or Lex Fridman without losing thousands of brain cells per second.
They go into listening to those people with less brain cells than an average healthy person. If you have a normal number of brain cells you don’t get caught up with that shit to begin with.
They can’t. Which explains the whole manosphere train of thought
I don’t listen to or follow any of the sources on the chart, and I don’t like politics. That said, as a passerby I thought it was an interesting chart. One thing I thought about, the legacy media that is highly manipulated in my opinion is dominated by so-called left and the pseudo independent in my opinion voices in red on the chart are dominated by so-called right.
I believe most people no longer trust the legacy media and are turning to just about anything else as an alternative.
I think most people mistakenly think that some of these voices in red are independent of or not affected by persuasion, coercion, other. Some of these voices in red are also potentially literal government agents.
All that said, I also find it interesting that there are not more blue dots: pseudo independent so-called left voices.
Does this mean that the so-called left audience is captive to the legacy media? And/or does this mean that the so-called left audience does not trust independent voices?
I will check some of the comments to the original post to see if anybody has thoughts on that.
Anyways, thanks for your time.
Steven Crowder is a one trick pony
Change my mind
I can get him to roll over for you… I’m going to need a bit of cloth and some Bacardi 151
You are not a fan of a channel named after the party which orchestrated the Armenian genocide and overthrew the Ottoman empire?
The young turks turned far right over night once Harris lost.
Last I saw them was them saying the left needs to start treating trans people shittier because my"most Americans are transphobic" and if we ever want to win an election again, we have to be transphobic.
As a trans person myself dating another trans person, where are we supposed to go?
How do you even talk to these people? The left is transphobic, you’re just calling the centre-right the left and stopping there.
Feels like the conversation can go no where because they view the left as just things they don’t agree with
You know every well where they want you to go.
i was going to say, there are some other things on here mislabeled as blue
They go where the money is.
It wasn’t over night. For example, their support for harris was far right in the first place.
