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    Fuck yea, Alaska - that’s how you welcome Vladdy Bear and Donald Epstein Trump to their romantic interlude

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      I’m pretty sure he came to DC and got applause from Congress during a floor speech last time. Didn’t he?

      Oh, sorry, I’m thinking of a different international war criminal we love even more.

      So hard to keep track of them all.

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      As awful as he and Trump are, Diplomatic Immunity is legitimately important. Negotiations are impossible with the threat of imprisonment attached to attending.

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        No it isn’t. These “negotiations” are completely irrelevant, and are just two criminals colluding. They should both be arrested on the spot.

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        Do you think Hitler would have been granted diplomatic immunity if he visited?

        This is not a normal diplomat. This is a person who has committed multiple, documented, crimes against humanity. He is wanted by the International Criminal Court, commonly known as The Hague. If arrested they are likely to hang him until he is dead for the mass suffering he has caused around the world. That is the punishment the Nazis received.

        Legitimate negotiations are impossible without inviting Zelensky and yet they have declined to do so. To claim negotiations require diplomatic immunity for Putin, a war criminal, but not to invite Zelensky is ridiculous.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Russian_leaders

        Edit: I’m aware America isn’t signed up to the ICC, that doesn’t change the point though

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          If you decide Diplomatic Immunity doesn’t exist for one person, then it doesn’t exist at all.

          England just decided that public speech in support of Palestine is a crime. If a German diplomat stationed in England was opposed to the genocide in Gaza, would it be okay for them to imprison that diplomat?

          Laws against pro-Palestinian speech in England have more legal authority than the ICC has in the US.

          Yes, Putin is especially evil. He should be taken into custody and made to answer for his crimes. But that shouldn’t be done during a Diplomatic mission. If he doesn’t leave Russia for anything but Diplomacy, then the civilized world should take the necessary steps to remove him from Russia directly.

          I personally am a fan of the complete embargo of countries that are out of control. The US, Russia, and Israel should not be allowed to trade with the civilized world until they step into line.

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      We should have an amendment…a soil amendment made of 100% putin. Then plant a big big fig tree on it. Each fig carefully packaged and fed to anyone who was hungry in Ukraine. Trees are great at filtering the good from the bad in the soil.

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      Like no joke it’s a thing he’s floated. Not straight up giving Alaska, but part of it for oil n gas.

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    Give’m hell! We don’t want his kind touching our soil! If we could make him part of soil, that would be preferred.

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      I bet his body could still provide some nutrients for flowers. I guess he’ll be on some regimen of meds at his age, but the toxicity of the mind doesn’t necessarily seep into the physical host.

      And it would be one way he could still be useful.

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      I’m willing to bet the people there protesting did in fact not vote for it. There were 140k people who did not vote for Trump in Alaska. The electoral college is a joke and makes people believe that everyone in any given state must agree with where the points went.

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          Thats a 5th of Alaskas population. Considering a 63% voter turn out thats 30% of all voters. So yeah a pretty sizeable chunk but nowhere near enough.

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              How many of those 700k are under the age of 18 and can’t vote? Only 180k voted for trump also, it’s not like it’s some huge majority of voters over who voted for Kamala.

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              Well no it would be 3.5/5ths but yes a majority none the less. So are you saying people shouldnt protest, because they were overruled by a stupid majority?

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      If your country has ever done a bad thing you’re logically compelled to never complain about current events.

      Edit: dude actually doesn’t understand that individuals exist

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        How about, you’re country is currently embroiled in half a dozen horrible things, you’ve never reconciled the war crimes your country has committed, you’ve excised yourself from being at the mercy of the worlds war crime tribunals and your country is responsible for nearly every war in the last 50 years. Where does one find time to help their neighbor with the splinter in their eye whilst failing to remove the tree in their own.

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          What country are you from? Cause %100 guarantee your country has done horrible shit before…bad people do bad shit.

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            That’s irrelevant to the fact a sociopathic pedophile is meeting with a sociopathic oligarch and people are playing holier than thou and allowing their country to continue on its path of global imperialist destruction. I feel like my point is intentionally being missed. Protest harder, i guess. Vote harder…i guess. It’s not going to save us or the Russian people. Capitalism is the problem. The fauxmockracy is a sham. We need to raze this shithole country and start anew with something just and equitable. 🏴✊🏿 As long as we rule the world with capitalism the problem is US.