• flandish@lemmy.world
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    what is it about losing that makes you so upset? if harris wanted to win she’d have stopped SUPPORTING A GENOCIDE.

    I did not vote for anyone who supported genocide.

    Why the fuck are you ok with it? there is no such thing as a thrown away vote, only recalcitrance from people who won’t admit they’re ok voting for someone who fucking supports genocide. Go fuck yourself.

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      It’s always amazing to me how people will blame those that couldn’t stomach voting for a pro-genocide candidate, instead of blaming the candidate for being pro-genocide.

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        I don’t blame those who didn’t vote for Kamala for her stance on Israel, I get it. I’m just tired of people who didn’t vote specifically against Trump then act really surprised that the Democrats are putting up an anemic defense of our rights, because in theory they should have expected it, given how they voted. Asking why Democrats aren’t stopping fascism when you ostensibly did not support them because you felt they would not do enough to stop fascism should be readily apparent.

        I am not using “you” here as in you, piefood, just as a general you

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          I get what your saying, and to some extent I agree. But I also don’t think that they would be fighting fascism if they had more power. When they were the majority, they spent their time building up the systems that the fascists are using. They built up the surveillance state, immigration control, torture programs and the police/military powers. They should have spent their time dismantling it, but the Democratics have the mindset of “It’s OK when the Blue Team does these things. Surely the Red Team won’t use that against us!”

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      Fucking morons complain about the stranglehold that the Israel lobby has on this country, yet cannot understand how outright support for Palestine, in 2023-2024 would have completely sank any presidential campaign.

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        neat. where have we seen that rhetoric before? oh right. a century ago.

        israel is doing a genocid. trump is a fascist.

        i can’t vote for either.

        no rep or dem candidate ran that fit my moral criteria on those hard lines.

        if YOU are ok with genocide or fascism, you do you and go follow your leader.

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        Trump voters voted for Trump. You really need to get out of your bubble and talk to them, instead of regarding them as some sort of immutable force like the weather.

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          You admitted to voting for trump. A vote for third party was a vote for trump. We’re done here you Russian fuckin troll

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            No, it’s really not a vote for Trump. Those votes aren’t his, or Harris’s

            You can tell because they count the votes and everything. Oops, I mean, everybody else can tell. Just not you.

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        Right. We had 15 months of weaponizing and covering for Israel’s ethnic cleansing during Biden’s term, but its the guy who criticizes him and his replacement that’s the “Nazi supporter.” Your comments are indistinguishable from a MAGA sycophant and you can’t even see it.

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        One of the lessons of the crimes of the Nazis is that the road to Hell is paved with The Greater Good. The Nazis themselves believed that all their crimes were necessary for the betterment of society. They thought though their actions were regrettable, it was the only choice they really had. Killing millions was the lesser of two evils.

        You have more in common with the Nazis than you would like to believe. There’s very little you cannot justify when you have no red lines and you’ll always support the lesser evil. The Nazis themselves thought they were supporting the lesser evil.

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          Lol everyone but you and a few thousand people are nazis

          Edit: third party morons can downvote this all they want. Voting against a semblance of sanity is what they’re good at

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      Lol. You didn’t vote period. So you don’t deserve a say in anything going forward.

      Once again, tankie. How’s Gaza looking? Because of people like you, I’d say pretty fucked. Especially since you are still using the Biden genocide excuse to not take responsibility for Trump’s ACTUAL genocide.

      But whatever helps you cope.

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        I find it very telling that you blame the person who couldn’t stomach to vote for genocide, instead of blaming your polticians for being pro-genocide.

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        ? I voted but not for harris and not for trump. I don’t vote for genocide. try again.

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            It seems to me that they do know how voting works in America: If you keep voting for pro-genocide candidates, you keep getting genocide. Maybe one of the two major parties should try running an anti-genocide candidate.

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            seems like you don’t. i vote for the candidate that fits who I wish to win. marketing and propaganda have you thinking a 3rd party is a thrown away vote. Want to fix that? vote for someone who doesn’t support genocide.

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            Yes! Third party votes pressure D and R to change their platform and get those votes.

            Even if you don’t think so, it still happens. For example, Socialists have been fighting for a minimum wage since 1910 (and still fight for higher wages today). They are the only reason for Democrats adopting a pro-labor position in the 30s. I could go on, but it’s all brand new to you, you’d lose your mind. Baby steps.

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              Yes! Third party votes pressure D and R to change their platform and get those votes.

              Curious as to when in the electoral history of the US you think this has happened.

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                It’s not an “electoral victory”; laws made by the major parties make this virtually impossible federally. However, their influence is still felt and makes changes.

                For example, Greens have been fighting tooth and nail for environmental concerns since the 1980s; they pulled many votes, and viola! Now it’s part of the Democratic platform. Libertarians fought tooth and nail for marijuana reform since the 1970s, pulling votes… Ds want those votes! Viola, many Ds have incorporated this into their platform today. Socialists have been fighting for labor since at least 1910, and viola! This was incorporated into Democratic platform in 1930s.

                Our major parties don’t give them an ounce of credit, but even a few thousand votes gets their attention.

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                  Literally is an icon next to your username on my app. It’s a good feature.

                  Mr “I’m totally not a troll”