Dude. That’s literally the same argument Trump was using for why he should be allowed to just deport people without due process. This is not the “solution” you think it is.
No, I’m saying that the basic principles of law and justice shouldn’t be abandoned just because there are people in the world who try and game the system.
It seems like everyone these days, agrees with Trump’s vision of what the law should look like. My side gets a pass…and everyone I think is “bad”, gets their rights taken away. People just seem to disagree about who should be punished without due process.
It’s not a “moral high ground” issue. It’s basic common sense. You want a legal system that’s based on facts? You want people’s rights to be respected? You can’t have those things, if you throw them all out the window anytime things don’t work out exactly the way you want them to.
Those are the things you have to fight to protect. If every law that got broken, meant the law was pointless…then we would have no laws.
It seems like everyone these days, agrees with Trump’s vision of what the law should look like. My side gets a pass…and everyone I think is “bad”, gets their rights taken away.
This is not what’s happening here. Nobody (on the left) is giving any side a “pass”. What the fuck is this strawman?
A lot of people gave Biden and Obama a pass when they were deporting, torturing and bombing innocent people. Some people seem to think that those things are only bad when the Red Team is doing it.
I’m talking about selectively assigning who gets their rights protected, and who doesn’t. Who deserves due process, and who doesn’t. The only way any of this can be considered “legitimate” is if it applies to everyone…not just the ones you think “deserve it”.
That’s entirely the point. Legal channels are too show to counteract everything at once. See Bannon’s “stress test”.
Dude. That’s literally the same argument Trump was using for why he should be allowed to just deport people without due process. This is not the “solution” you think it is.
So you’re saying we should “go high”… How has that been working out thus far?
No, I’m saying that the basic principles of law and justice shouldn’t be abandoned just because there are people in the world who try and game the system.
It seems like everyone these days, agrees with Trump’s vision of what the law should look like. My side gets a pass…and everyone I think is “bad”, gets their rights taken away. People just seem to disagree about who should be punished without due process.
It’s not a “moral high ground” issue. It’s basic common sense. You want a legal system that’s based on facts? You want people’s rights to be respected? You can’t have those things, if you throw them all out the window anytime things don’t work out exactly the way you want them to.
Those are the things you have to fight to protect. If every law that got broken, meant the law was pointless…then we would have no laws.
This is not what’s happening here. Nobody (on the left) is giving any side a “pass”. What the fuck is this strawman?
A lot of people gave Biden and Obama a pass when they were deporting, torturing and bombing innocent people. Some people seem to think that those things are only bad when the Red Team is doing it.
This is not even close to the same thing, and you’re either being ignorant or disingenuous by suggesting they are.
There’s a difference of scale, but they still did those things. You are still right here, right now, giving them a “pass”.
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I’m talking about selectively assigning who gets their rights protected, and who doesn’t. Who deserves due process, and who doesn’t. The only way any of this can be considered “legitimate” is if it applies to everyone…not just the ones you think “deserve it”.