Neither country expected the treaty to last, and the areas in Poland were largely areas annexed from Ukraine and Lithuania beforehand. Is your point that the Soviets expected the Nazis to stay non-hostile until the end of World War II or even beyond it? Not only would that have been stupid, we have evidence to the contrary, that neither country expected the treaty to last.
I’ve already explained, it was a way for the Soviets to limit Nazi advances without breaking the pact. Neither country expected the pact to last very long, this wasn’t a coordinated plan to take over Europe but a way to stall the Nazi advance. Your point would require the Soviets to have genuinely wished to be allies of the Nazis, and to intend on doing so throughout all of World War II.
It clearly delineates their spheres of influence and how they’ll divide Poland after the war. Damage control, opportunistic land grab, whatever side you fall on, I don’t think the fact of the agreement is in doubt (though there’s still a conspiracy theory about it)
It was an agreement for the Nazis to not press beyond certain boundaries, which is what prevented Poland from being entirely colonized by the genocidal Nazis, and the intent on the Soviet side was to stall the Nazis. There were no long-term plans for alliance.
This was them dividing the country between them for when the war was concluded. Unless we pretend we don’t know what this means
Neither country expected the treaty to last, and the areas in Poland were largely areas annexed from Ukraine and Lithuania beforehand. Is your point that the Soviets expected the Nazis to stay non-hostile until the end of World War II or even beyond it? Not only would that have been stupid, we have evidence to the contrary, that neither country expected the treaty to last.
You were arguing they weren’t planning on attacking and dividing Poland. That’s what my quote is in reply to.
Correct, because they didn’t.
What do you think the Secret Protocol and them spelling out where the actual border will be set was about
I’ve already explained, it was a way for the Soviets to limit Nazi advances without breaking the pact. Neither country expected the pact to last very long, this wasn’t a coordinated plan to take over Europe but a way to stall the Nazi advance. Your point would require the Soviets to have genuinely wished to be allies of the Nazis, and to intend on doing so throughout all of World War II.
It clearly delineates their spheres of influence and how they’ll divide Poland after the war. Damage control, opportunistic land grab, whatever side you fall on, I don’t think the fact of the agreement is in doubt (though there’s still a conspiracy theory about it)
It was an agreement for the Nazis to not press beyond certain boundaries, which is what prevented Poland from being entirely colonized by the genocidal Nazis, and the intent on the Soviet side was to stall the Nazis. There were no long-term plans for alliance.
And for Soviet Union to not press beyond a certain boundary. That’s how those divisions generally work.