• TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Not sure how this applies when:

    • X11 was the only standard prior to Wayland.
    • GNOME is dropping X11 in a short time.
    • KDE’s telemetry even five months ago showed 80+% of (that portion of) their userbase uses Wayland, and they plan to drop X11 once they have a concrete set of problems worked out.
    • Hyprland and Sway run Wayland exclusively.
    • Cinnamon, MATE, and Xfce are working on Wayland sessions. Cinnamon’s is there but, I think, still experimental.
    • Budgie is working to go Wayland-only.
    • There’s no sign that Wayland will stop improving from a state that’s arguably already much better than X11.
    • X11’s actual maintainers barely want anything to do with it beyond bug fixes, and the only person who wants to “innovate” it via a fork is a bigot and a fucking moron who doesn’t know things you learn in CS 101.
    • X11’s maintainers are majorly involved in developing Wayland and have been since the start. This is their idea.

    It seems like it went from “Situation: there is one standard” to “Situation: there are two standards developed by largely the same people with one set to replace the other”, and then soon: “Situation: there is one standard and one translation layer kept around for a decade or so for compatibility.”

    Not every single time someone tries to make things better is this xkcd relevant; this had nothing to do with unifying standards and everything to do with superseding one.

    • Gutek8134@lemmy.world
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      23 hours ago

      > Pretty much everything uses wayland now

      > nVidia drivers don’t work on Wayland

      > ANGER

      And that’s why I’m getting AMD when I’ll be modernizing replacing my setup

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        > nVidia drivers don’t work on Wayland

        What?

        I’m using Wayland with nvidia-open drivers and I don’t have a problem even using proton via Wayland for HDR.

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      Huh neat. I kinda just assumed “wheel11” had 10 other versions and didnt realize it was an analogy for something irl

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        2 days ago

        You are actually correct that Wheel11 had 10 other versions. It just happens that those 10 other versions were released before September 1987.