It showed up out of nowhere, made the most bank in history (for a movie), refused to explain and disappeared for like 15 years, then came back out of nowhere with a sequel movie, a AAA game, and like 3 more movies in the works.

Edit: I think it now has like a Lego line too?

  • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
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    9 days ago

    I wonder why people don’t make the same argument for sports players.

    surely you must see how nonsense this sentence is.

    people make to same argument for other creative arts all the time. books, music, painting. programming, even.

    also, that thing where “everything is the hero’s journey” is based on skewed data. it’s not actually that prevalent.

    • Dasus@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      Oh, “creative arts”? Like… subjective things? Unlike sports, in which there’s usually an objective scoring system. Wish I had thought about that.

      Oh wait I did yes.

      it’s not actually that prevalent.

      In modern books? Probably not.

      But in general? Yah, it is.

      • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
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        9 days ago

        we both know that’s not what i was referring to. i’m talking things like intellectual properly rights. also, there are plenty of subjectively judged sports.

        But in general? Yah, it is.

        one major criticism of the monomyth theory is that it relies, perhaps subconsciously, on confirmation bias. many classic works that have been called monomyth-conforming only fit that mold when you ignore stuff that doesn’t fit, stuff that in some cases completely change the context of the other beats.

        folklorist Barre Toelken, in an essay from 1996, wrote

        Campbell could construct a monomyth of the hero only by citing those stories that fit his preconceived mold, and leaving out equally valid stories… which did not fit the pattern

        • Dasus@lemmy.world
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          9 days ago

          Now it’s just semantics about how much story structure we have.

          I’m not saying it’s the “hero’s journey” every time, but if you for instance look at Dan Harmon’s story circle — which is very much based on the monomyth — you’ll see how those apply to pretty much all narrative stories. Not all, but most.

          It’s just the form we seem to like or which at least works well enough.

          Also saying “we both know that…” online is a bit naive.

          • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
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            9 days ago

            i personally go with the most charitable interpretation, trying to figure out what people mean rather than assuming that the text as written, no matter how incongruous to the rest of their argument so far, is exactly what they meant. but you do you.